1 00:00:04,070 --> 00:00:01,750 this program is brought to you by the 2 00:00:07,030 --> 00:00:04,080 genesis communications network a world 3 00:00:17,260 --> 00:00:07,040 leader in talk radio since 1998. 4 00:00:17,270 --> 00:00:32,549 [Music] 5 00:00:38,069 --> 00:00:35,750 you're in the paracast the gold standard 6 00:00:39,430 --> 00:00:38,079 of paranormal radio 7 00:00:42,150 --> 00:00:39,440 and now 8 00:00:44,310 --> 00:00:42,160 here's gene steinberg 9 00:00:47,510 --> 00:00:44,320 on the power cache this week we have 10 00:00:49,590 --> 00:00:47,520 invited back joshua kutchen and he's got 11 00:00:53,270 --> 00:00:49,600 a new book out for anomalous books 12 00:00:56,310 --> 00:00:53,280 called the brimstone deceit 13 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:56,320 uh oh yes we're in trouble now now we 14 00:01:01,349 --> 00:00:58,800 had him on last year for a book called a 15 00:01:03,430 --> 00:01:01,359 trojan feast the food and drink 16 00:01:05,990 --> 00:01:03,440 offerings of aliens fairies and 17 00:01:08,149 --> 00:01:06,000 sasquatch and it's definitely not from 18 00:01:10,149 --> 00:01:08,159 wendy's or mcdonald's 19 00:01:11,670 --> 00:01:10,159 if they follow cultural memes maybe it 20 00:01:13,590 --> 00:01:11,680 is these days 21 00:01:14,950 --> 00:01:13,600 or strawberry ice cream right oh i 22 00:01:16,230 --> 00:01:14,960 haven't had strawberry ice cream in a 23 00:01:18,230 --> 00:01:16,240 long time 24 00:01:20,630 --> 00:01:18,240 me not me neither well i want to keep my 25 00:01:23,429 --> 00:01:20,640 weight low as you get older you know 26 00:01:25,270 --> 00:01:23,439 everything you eat piles it on so that's 27 00:01:27,670 --> 00:01:25,280 part of it right there 28 00:01:30,149 --> 00:01:27,680 but before we get started with a new 29 00:01:32,149 --> 00:01:30,159 book let's kind of recap for listeners 30 00:01:34,630 --> 00:01:32,159 who may have just recently joined us 31 00:01:35,749 --> 00:01:34,640 where you got started with looking at 32 00:01:37,670 --> 00:01:35,759 foods 33 00:01:38,870 --> 00:01:37,680 right well it was uh you know it had a 34 00:01:40,550 --> 00:01:38,880 long-standing interest in the 35 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:40,560 intersection of 36 00:01:45,109 --> 00:01:43,119 fairy folk tales and the sort of ufo 37 00:01:47,510 --> 00:01:45,119 phenomena in general and i was always 38 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:47,520 very keenly aware of the taboo that 39 00:01:51,590 --> 00:01:49,920 existed in fairy folk tales that if you 40 00:01:53,350 --> 00:01:51,600 were to take food from the fairies you 41 00:01:54,870 --> 00:01:53,360 would be trapped with them forever 42 00:01:57,510 --> 00:01:54,880 and i was wondering you know if that had 43 00:01:58,630 --> 00:01:57,520 any sort of a corollary in abduction 44 00:02:00,709 --> 00:01:58,640 reports because i didn't know that 45 00:02:02,149 --> 00:02:00,719 people were offered substances sometimes 46 00:02:03,670 --> 00:02:02,159 in abduction reports but my real light 47 00:02:06,149 --> 00:02:03,680 bulb moment was when i was reading j 48 00:02:08,469 --> 00:02:06,159 robert alley's raincoat sasquatch and in 49 00:02:10,630 --> 00:02:08,479 that particular book he mentions how uh 50 00:02:12,630 --> 00:02:10,640 certain first nations people uh from 51 00:02:14,790 --> 00:02:12,640 alaska felt that if you took food from a 52 00:02:16,550 --> 00:02:14,800 book wuss which was a woodman uh 53 00:02:17,990 --> 00:02:16,560 basically a sasquatch that you would be 54 00:02:19,750 --> 00:02:18,000 trapped with the book was forever and i 55 00:02:21,750 --> 00:02:19,760 said to myself aha perhaps there's 56 00:02:23,110 --> 00:02:21,760 something here so i just pulled on that 57 00:02:24,550 --> 00:02:23,120 thread and an entire book just sort of 58 00:02:27,190 --> 00:02:24,560 fell out of it 59 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:27,200 wow to me it's just fascinating when you 60 00:02:32,550 --> 00:02:30,160 uh when you start looking at cross you 61 00:02:35,270 --> 00:02:32,560 know phenomena and 62 00:02:37,270 --> 00:02:35,280 looking at those linkages linkages and 63 00:02:39,670 --> 00:02:37,280 points of connection jacques valley of 64 00:02:41,030 --> 00:02:39,680 course pointed out many of them in you 65 00:02:44,710 --> 00:02:41,040 know his seminal book password to 66 00:02:46,710 --> 00:02:44,720 magonia um one of my favorite uh books 67 00:02:49,190 --> 00:02:46,720 was that very faith in celtic countries 68 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:49,200 there's numerous examples 69 00:02:53,430 --> 00:02:51,120 of you know warnings about food and 70 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:53,440 drink and and uh the we folk and then 71 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:55,120 when you really start digging like you 72 00:02:59,670 --> 00:02:57,040 did you you find that there's examples 73 00:03:02,149 --> 00:02:59,680 that that kind of bridge the gap whole 74 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:02,159 set of potential paranormal phenomena in 75 00:03:06,869 --> 00:03:04,800 another and uh it's it's fascinating to 76 00:03:08,790 --> 00:03:06,879 me and anything that's tactile anything 77 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:08,800 that has to do with you know sight 78 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:09,760 hearing 79 00:03:13,270 --> 00:03:11,200 touch smell 80 00:03:15,030 --> 00:03:13,280 i think has has been kind of overlooked 81 00:03:17,750 --> 00:03:15,040 don't you think uh you know you have a 82 00:03:20,390 --> 00:03:17,760 lot of you know obviously uh people 83 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:20,400 wanting you know descriptions of uh 84 00:03:25,190 --> 00:03:22,480 events but you know seldom do you get 85 00:03:27,430 --> 00:03:25,200 into that whole area of you know special 86 00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:27,440 kinds of sound smells and 87 00:03:31,110 --> 00:03:29,519 and uh in the case of your last book in 88 00:03:33,190 --> 00:03:31,120 in taste and 89 00:03:35,030 --> 00:03:33,200 it's just fascinating to me and i really 90 00:03:37,030 --> 00:03:35,040 applaud your approach well i appreciate 91 00:03:39,509 --> 00:03:37,040 that no it's absolutely been neglected 92 00:03:40,630 --> 00:03:39,519 for for for far too long you know it's 93 00:03:41,830 --> 00:03:40,640 kind of interesting i remember the first 94 00:03:43,509 --> 00:03:41,840 time that i approached patrick weeds 95 00:03:45,270 --> 00:03:43,519 with anomalous books about a trojan 96 00:03:46,630 --> 00:03:45,280 feast he said i don't know if there's 97 00:03:47,990 --> 00:03:46,640 enough here sounds kind of like a thin 98 00:03:50,309 --> 00:03:48,000 concept and he came back he's like oh 99 00:03:52,630 --> 00:03:50,319 wow there's so much here and uh sure 100 00:03:54,390 --> 00:03:52,640 enough you know my my philosophy that 101 00:03:55,990 --> 00:03:54,400 emerged out of that book was to look at 102 00:03:57,509 --> 00:03:56,000 the insignificant things that people 103 00:03:59,910 --> 00:03:57,519 don't tend to look at because i think 104 00:04:01,190 --> 00:03:59,920 that perhaps we might get some greater 105 00:04:03,589 --> 00:04:01,200 insight by looking at those things so 106 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:03,599 when i started doing this book on uh you 107 00:04:08,630 --> 00:04:06,560 know smells of supernatural entities of 108 00:04:10,149 --> 00:04:08,640 all of all types again patrick was like 109 00:04:12,470 --> 00:04:10,159 i don't know if there's much here to 110 00:04:13,910 --> 00:04:12,480 work on you know and once he saw my 111 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:13,920 outline it's like oh this is great go 112 00:04:17,749 --> 00:04:15,920 ahead it's so great to have a someone 113 00:04:19,349 --> 00:04:17,759 who's who uh who believes in me like 114 00:04:21,509 --> 00:04:19,359 patrick does i really appreciate it well 115 00:04:24,629 --> 00:04:21,519 patrick is unlike a lot of publishers 116 00:04:26,310 --> 00:04:24,639 he's deeply immersed in these subjects 117 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:26,320 now a couple of things always come to 118 00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:28,720 mind to me when you say foods and smells 119 00:04:34,150 --> 00:04:30,960 that is in connection with paranormal 120 00:04:35,510 --> 00:04:34,160 events the onset of the odor of burnt 121 00:04:37,590 --> 00:04:35,520 sulfur 122 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:37,600 now this is kind of like covering old 123 00:04:40,710 --> 00:04:39,680 ground again but it's where things begin 124 00:04:42,790 --> 00:04:40,720 in fact 125 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:42,800 one of the wacky talk show hosts on the 126 00:04:47,909 --> 00:04:45,120 same network we're on was saying that 127 00:04:50,150 --> 00:04:47,919 two people in american politics carry 128 00:04:53,030 --> 00:04:50,160 that odor i don't want to say who they 129 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:53,040 are but where did this come because this 130 00:04:57,510 --> 00:04:55,040 goes back to the days of john keelan 131 00:04:59,670 --> 00:04:57,520 earlier where when something's about to 132 00:05:00,870 --> 00:04:59,680 happen you always have this odor yeah i 133 00:05:02,950 --> 00:05:00,880 think that everybody involved in 134 00:05:04,629 --> 00:05:02,960 politics smells that way but 135 00:05:06,550 --> 00:05:04,639 but that's just my own personal opinion 136 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:06,560 and they have a lot of flies surrounding 137 00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:07,440 them 138 00:05:10,870 --> 00:05:09,039 yeah that's fascinating you know it's 139 00:05:12,950 --> 00:05:10,880 really interesting after sort of looking 140 00:05:15,510 --> 00:05:12,960 at all the data for a lot of different 141 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:15,520 subjects this concept of sulfur 142 00:05:20,310 --> 00:05:18,000 brimstone kept on coming back up time 143 00:05:21,990 --> 00:05:20,320 and again um probably not a majority of 144 00:05:23,510 --> 00:05:22,000 cases but definitely a plurality of 145 00:05:25,270 --> 00:05:23,520 cases hands down 146 00:05:27,510 --> 00:05:25,280 it really is ammunition for a lot of 147 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:27,520 people who tend to take a more uh 148 00:05:30,790 --> 00:05:28,880 spiritual 149 00:05:32,710 --> 00:05:30,800 uh angle to the paranormal because they 150 00:05:34,070 --> 00:05:32,720 can say oh look these grey aliens smell 151 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:34,080 like sulfur that must mean that they're 152 00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:36,000 demons i don't necessarily think that's 153 00:05:38,550 --> 00:05:36,960 the case 154 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:38,560 but it is interesting to see sort of a 155 00:05:42,950 --> 00:05:41,280 continuum of this concept of foul smells 156 00:05:45,110 --> 00:05:42,960 emerging from medieval times being 157 00:05:46,870 --> 00:05:45,120 associated with the devil and sort of 158 00:05:50,070 --> 00:05:46,880 being that that attribute being 159 00:05:52,710 --> 00:05:50,080 transferred over into demons into 160 00:05:54,310 --> 00:05:52,720 grey aliens into sasquatch and even into 161 00:05:56,310 --> 00:05:54,320 other things like men and black or uh 162 00:05:57,590 --> 00:05:56,320 the black-eyed kids um 163 00:05:58,710 --> 00:05:57,600 but it's really interesting to see this 164 00:06:01,029 --> 00:05:58,720 sort of 165 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:01,039 evolution and i really think that 166 00:06:06,870 --> 00:06:03,840 perhaps one of the originations of this 167 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:06,880 sort of meme or trope of of sinister 168 00:06:10,390 --> 00:06:08,960 entities smelling like brimstone um 169 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:10,400 really is sort of 170 00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:12,800 an evolution of you know people 171 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:14,800 in a simpler time trying to describe 172 00:06:18,150 --> 00:06:16,240 interactions with these magonian 173 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:18,160 phenomena 174 00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:20,560 but obviously if they're smelling that 175 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:22,400 it has to have a basis it's not just 176 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:23,520 well this is 177 00:06:27,590 --> 00:06:25,360 what they must smell like because they 178 00:06:30,469 --> 00:06:27,600 are this kind of creature it is the 179 00:06:33,670 --> 00:06:30,479 cause there being you've got this odor 180 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:33,680 as an onset once you smell it something 181 00:06:36,870 --> 00:06:35,440 is going to happen 182 00:06:39,029 --> 00:06:36,880 right so that's that's the real question 183 00:06:41,830 --> 00:06:39,039 is is there any sort of extra meaning to 184 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:41,840 this to this commonality um and you know 185 00:06:44,469 --> 00:06:42,880 throughout the years different people 186 00:06:45,909 --> 00:06:44,479 have proposed different things um i know 187 00:06:48,309 --> 00:06:45,919 that john keel was a fan of the idea 188 00:06:50,150 --> 00:06:48,319 that perhaps some sort of giant release 189 00:06:51,830 --> 00:06:50,160 of energy in the atmosphere 190 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:51,840 when certain when certain phenomena 191 00:06:56,309 --> 00:06:54,240 manifest uh perhaps 192 00:06:58,550 --> 00:06:56,319 could generate some sort of 193 00:06:59,909 --> 00:06:58,560 uh expulsion of hydrogen sulfide um 194 00:07:01,029 --> 00:06:59,919 folklorically it's really interesting 195 00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:01,039 because 196 00:07:04,309 --> 00:07:02,800 if you look at sulfur which doesn't have 197 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:04,319 a smell actually by the way anytime you 198 00:07:08,070 --> 00:07:05,680 smell sulfur 199 00:07:09,589 --> 00:07:08,080 it's either burning or 200 00:07:11,830 --> 00:07:09,599 it's actually a compound that you smell 201 00:07:13,830 --> 00:07:11,840 so burning sulfur releases hydrogen 202 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:13,840 releases sulfur dioxide so that's what 203 00:07:16,950 --> 00:07:15,360 you smell a pure sulfur actually doesn't 204 00:07:18,870 --> 00:07:16,960 have a scent but it's interesting 205 00:07:20,950 --> 00:07:18,880 because you know in antiquity 206 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:20,960 it was used as a fumigant 207 00:07:24,629 --> 00:07:22,720 and it was used to cleanse 208 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:24,639 so when uh you know if you look at the 209 00:07:27,670 --> 00:07:25,360 uh 210 00:07:29,510 --> 00:07:27,680 you know the the christian bible 211 00:07:31,510 --> 00:07:29,520 whenever you know satan was cast into 212 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:31,520 the lake of fire and sulfur it wasn't 213 00:07:35,430 --> 00:07:33,120 like some place that he wanted to go it 214 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:35,440 was god's attempts to cleanse him um if 215 00:07:39,110 --> 00:07:37,280 you look in certain hebraic texts as 216 00:07:40,870 --> 00:07:39,120 well god's breath was referred to as 217 00:07:42,870 --> 00:07:40,880 being like sulfur so that's really where 218 00:07:45,110 --> 00:07:42,880 we get the sort of evolution of this 219 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:45,120 sulfur idea sulfur isn't the smell of 220 00:07:48,710 --> 00:07:46,720 demons and the devil it's the smell of 221 00:07:49,749 --> 00:07:48,720 god's attempt to cleanse the devil which 222 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:49,759 i thought was an interesting angle that 223 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:51,120 i hadn't really heard anybody talk about 224 00:07:55,189 --> 00:07:53,520 before i i'd never heard that 225 00:07:56,469 --> 00:07:55,199 yeah i mean and that's this is the sort 226 00:07:57,909 --> 00:07:56,479 of reason this anti-fungal 227 00:07:59,430 --> 00:07:57,919 anti-microbial quality is the reason 228 00:08:01,029 --> 00:07:59,440 that sometimes you find like face creams 229 00:08:03,029 --> 00:08:01,039 and whatnot that actually have uh 230 00:08:04,629 --> 00:08:03,039 sulfites in them it's the same the same 231 00:08:06,869 --> 00:08:04,639 property that that makes them valuable 232 00:08:08,150 --> 00:08:06,879 in the cosmetic industry 233 00:08:10,070 --> 00:08:08,160 well the thing about the cosmetic 234 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:10,080 industry i always argue with my wife 235 00:08:15,189 --> 00:08:13,120 about this is that they take something 236 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:15,199 where the raw materials cost like ten 237 00:08:20,950 --> 00:08:18,240 cents and they sell it for fifty dollars 238 00:08:23,589 --> 00:08:20,960 that's capitalism that definitely smells 239 00:08:24,830 --> 00:08:23,599 like sulfur 240 00:08:27,830 --> 00:08:24,840 or 241 00:08:30,230 --> 00:08:27,840 don't want to get there you say i had a 242 00:08:31,670 --> 00:08:30,240 college roommate that uh 243 00:08:33,750 --> 00:08:31,680 i'll tell you he had to keep him away 244 00:08:36,230 --> 00:08:33,760 from mexican food because the h2 gas 245 00:08:38,230 --> 00:08:36,240 would just oh man i'll tell you i i 246 00:08:40,550 --> 00:08:38,240 literally had to leave the uh 247 00:08:42,550 --> 00:08:40,560 the basement apartment that we shared on 248 00:08:44,550 --> 00:08:42,560 a number of occasions i i think it was 249 00:08:46,070 --> 00:08:44,560 just him he had he had you know just an 250 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:46,080 unfortunate 251 00:08:50,710 --> 00:08:49,760 uh kind of problem and it really didn't 252 00:08:53,829 --> 00:08:50,720 help with 253 00:08:57,430 --> 00:08:55,670 unless you get some really strange kind 254 00:08:59,670 --> 00:08:57,440 of women 255 00:09:02,389 --> 00:08:59,680 yeah exactly well that's kind of 256 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:02,399 invariably what would happen and um 257 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:03,680 they have a website for that i'm pretty 258 00:09:09,110 --> 00:09:06,640 sure sure yeah well um you know another 259 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:09,120 thing that um you know just just to go 260 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:11,760 kind of with that that particular uh uh 261 00:09:17,269 --> 00:09:14,959 you know we're talking about smells here 262 00:09:18,949 --> 00:09:17,279 you know there's combinations of smells 263 00:09:21,670 --> 00:09:18,959 too and uh 264 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:21,680 you know i often have wondered 265 00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:23,920 as you pointed out earlier uh sometimes 266 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:27,200 it's very difficult to describe a smell 267 00:09:32,150 --> 00:09:30,080 or the quality of of a taste i mean it's 268 00:09:34,150 --> 00:09:32,160 it's something that's 269 00:09:36,389 --> 00:09:34,160 it's difficult to language and i'm 270 00:09:37,590 --> 00:09:36,399 wondering if possibly we're dealing with 271 00:09:38,630 --> 00:09:37,600 a single 272 00:09:41,509 --> 00:09:38,640 uh 273 00:09:43,990 --> 00:09:41,519 type of of smell or we're dealing with a 274 00:09:45,030 --> 00:09:44,000 combination of smells or possibly the 275 00:09:47,269 --> 00:09:45,040 mis 276 00:09:48,710 --> 00:09:47,279 kind of languaging of trying to describe 277 00:09:51,670 --> 00:09:48,720 these things 278 00:09:53,670 --> 00:09:51,680 we'll pick up on this our next segment 279 00:09:55,990 --> 00:09:53,680 with joshua kutchen joining gene and 280 00:10:01,120 --> 00:09:56,000 chris you're in 281 00:10:09,990 --> 00:10:07,990 [Music] 282 00:10:12,310 --> 00:10:10,000 the award-winning graphic 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other good stuff for a low subscription 398 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:04,880 rate plus dot the powercast.com it is 399 00:15:09,990 --> 00:15:07,120 the brimstone deceit 400 00:15:12,230 --> 00:15:10,000 joshua cutchen is the author and chris 401 00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:12,240 asks a question about languaging in our 402 00:15:16,150 --> 00:15:14,399 previous segment joshua that's an 403 00:15:17,430 --> 00:15:16,160 excellent point and olfactory scientists 404 00:15:19,509 --> 00:15:17,440 actually have a term for this they refer 405 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:19,519 to it as the tip of the nose phenomena 406 00:15:23,269 --> 00:15:21,760 basically what it means is that is that 407 00:15:24,550 --> 00:15:23,279 even though you don't forget a smell 408 00:15:26,470 --> 00:15:24,560 once you've smelled it sometimes it's 409 00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:26,480 not only a difficult to create a scent 410 00:15:29,990 --> 00:15:28,320 picture in your mind but sometimes it's 411 00:15:31,509 --> 00:15:30,000 difficult to identify it you can often 412 00:15:33,910 --> 00:15:31,519 identify it as comparing it to something 413 00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:33,920 else i think your idea about a sort of 414 00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:36,480 one singular common sense uh does have 415 00:15:39,990 --> 00:15:37,920 some real basis what was interesting to 416 00:15:42,389 --> 00:15:40,000 me is how often scents that aren't 417 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:42,399 explicitly noticed as sulfur often have 418 00:15:46,069 --> 00:15:44,160 sulfur undertones for the reason that 419 00:15:48,790 --> 00:15:46,079 they are malodorous in the first place 420 00:15:50,069 --> 00:15:48,800 human beings are so keenly in tune with 421 00:15:52,470 --> 00:15:50,079 the smell of sulfur it's almost like 422 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:52,480 these things want to utilize it as a way 423 00:15:57,030 --> 00:15:54,480 of being noticed for example hydrogen 424 00:15:58,550 --> 00:15:57,040 sulfide which is the rotten egg smell 425 00:16:00,310 --> 00:15:58,560 that is probably one of the more common 426 00:16:03,590 --> 00:16:00,320 sense that you find if you were to take 427 00:16:05,430 --> 00:16:03,600 an eye dropper full of ink and put one 428 00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:05,440 drop of that ink into a 429 00:16:09,990 --> 00:16:08,000 semi liquid container of a semi truck 430 00:16:12,310 --> 00:16:10,000 that's twice the concentration at which 431 00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:12,320 we can smell hydrogen sulfide we can 432 00:16:17,670 --> 00:16:14,399 actually smell that 0.47 parts per 433 00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:17,680 billion if i recall correctly um so it's 434 00:16:20,870 --> 00:16:18,800 it's one of these 435 00:16:22,389 --> 00:16:20,880 extreme mellitus components that were 436 00:16:23,590 --> 00:16:22,399 all really hardwired to detect and 437 00:16:24,949 --> 00:16:23,600 what's interesting if you look at other 438 00:16:26,470 --> 00:16:24,959 people other descriptions that people 439 00:16:27,990 --> 00:16:26,480 use in the paranormal not only sulfur 440 00:16:29,829 --> 00:16:28,000 but they say well you know it smells 441 00:16:31,189 --> 00:16:29,839 like decomposition well 442 00:16:33,509 --> 00:16:31,199 there are a lot of different components 443 00:16:35,990 --> 00:16:33,519 and that sort of rotten meat rotten 444 00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:36,000 tissue smell but a lot of sulfur 445 00:16:39,189 --> 00:16:37,680 compounds are part of that if you look 446 00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:39,199 at some people who in some cases say it 447 00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:40,560 smells like burning rubber a couple of 448 00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:42,720 ufo cases like that well 449 00:16:45,910 --> 00:16:44,240 you know sulfur is used to vulcanize 450 00:16:47,509 --> 00:16:45,920 rubber if you look at people who say it 451 00:16:49,910 --> 00:16:47,519 smelled like you know i have a case from 452 00:16:52,389 --> 00:16:49,920 i believe massachusetts that said that a 453 00:16:53,990 --> 00:16:52,399 ufo smelled like household uh gas well 454 00:16:56,710 --> 00:16:54,000 household gas doesn't smell we would 455 00:16:58,470 --> 00:16:56,720 deliberately add methane vial to 456 00:17:00,310 --> 00:16:58,480 household gas to make it smell to you 457 00:17:02,550 --> 00:17:00,320 know to provide a warning um skunk spray 458 00:17:04,309 --> 00:17:02,560 even the primary uh male odors 459 00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:04,319 components and skunk spray is also 460 00:17:07,750 --> 00:17:06,079 software based as well so there really 461 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:07,760 is this sort of sulfuric undercurrent 462 00:17:11,829 --> 00:17:09,760 throughout a lot of these cases more so 463 00:17:13,669 --> 00:17:11,839 than i think people even realize just to 464 00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:13,679 kind of rewind here a little bit you 465 00:17:17,110 --> 00:17:16,000 said that we are able to smell parts per 466 00:17:18,870 --> 00:17:17,120 billion 467 00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:18,880 oh yeah when it comes to this particular 468 00:17:23,110 --> 00:17:21,280 smell because i i'd never heard that i 469 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:23,120 heard that we were able to to smell 470 00:17:26,069 --> 00:17:24,720 parts per million 471 00:17:27,990 --> 00:17:26,079 but you're saying that like a certain 472 00:17:29,990 --> 00:17:28,000 smell like that we can actually even 473 00:17:32,789 --> 00:17:30,000 smell even less of it wow 474 00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:32,799 that's amazing 0.47 parts per billion so 475 00:17:36,230 --> 00:17:34,640 half of a part per billion it's it's 476 00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:36,240 amazing um and part of the reason for 477 00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:38,080 that is because hydrogen sulfide is you 478 00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:40,240 know actually a fairly toxic gas i mean 479 00:17:43,990 --> 00:17:42,640 you know in theory any gas can be toxic 480 00:17:45,909 --> 00:17:44,000 if you're not getting enough oxygen but 481 00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:45,919 hydrogen sulfide is it's a real 482 00:17:49,270 --> 00:17:48,160 dangerous smell the good news is that if 483 00:17:50,630 --> 00:17:49,280 you're smelling in an encounter it 484 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:50,640 probably means it has not reached that 485 00:17:53,830 --> 00:17:52,160 dangerous threshold because when it is 486 00:17:55,190 --> 00:17:53,840 above that dangerous threshold you 487 00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:55,200 actually become desensitized to it you 488 00:17:58,549 --> 00:17:57,200 can't even smell it at all oh wow well i 489 00:18:00,470 --> 00:17:58,559 knew that there are for instance 490 00:18:02,470 --> 00:18:00,480 bloodhounds have been 491 00:18:05,350 --> 00:18:02,480 somehow they've calculated they're able 492 00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:05,360 to smell parts per trillion and bears 493 00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:07,440 are another example of a of an animal 494 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:10,640 that can have extremely acute senses of 495 00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:13,360 smell i think a bear can smell something 496 00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:16,160 downwind up to five miles 497 00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:17,679 yeah there's a statistic that was that i 498 00:18:21,669 --> 00:18:20,080 got from a guy at the sensory research 499 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:21,679 institute of florida state university 500 00:18:25,909 --> 00:18:24,000 that said that canine noses are ten 501 00:18:27,750 --> 00:18:25,919 thousand to a hundred thousand times as 502 00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:27,760 acute as human noses so if you were to 503 00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:29,200 take that analogy to your vision even if 504 00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:31,039 it's just 10 000 times better what you 505 00:18:35,590 --> 00:18:32,720 and i can see at a third of a mile a dog 506 00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:35,600 could see at 3 000 miles away this is 507 00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:37,440 interesting here since i brought that up 508 00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:40,000 i was thinking about the canine species 509 00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:42,160 in general when humans are confronted 510 00:18:44,710 --> 00:18:43,120 with this 511 00:18:48,070 --> 00:18:44,720 burnt odor 512 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:48,080 situation this burnt sulfur odor how do 513 00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:50,400 canines react when this happens we know 514 00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:51,600 it's interesting i have a little bit of 515 00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:53,760 a theory that all paranormal activities 516 00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:56,080 smell just perhaps they might smell at a 517 00:18:59,590 --> 00:18:57,840 threshold that humans can't detect which 518 00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:59,600 might be a reason why pets seem to 519 00:19:02,630 --> 00:19:01,520 respond to paranormal activity or why 520 00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:02,640 pets seem to see things that aren't 521 00:19:05,430 --> 00:19:03,760 there or react to things that aren't 522 00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:05,440 there um it's interesting you know 523 00:19:09,990 --> 00:19:07,200 specifically germaine to the question of 524 00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:10,000 this sulfuric smell it's quite common to 525 00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:12,640 have dogs that are trained to track 526 00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:14,240 they'll just sit down and stop when 527 00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:16,160 confronted with sasquatch smell i think 528 00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:19,039 it's interesting to couple that with the 529 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:20,880 information that or the with the 530 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:22,799 knowledge that certain smells that 531 00:19:26,950 --> 00:19:25,280 sasquatch are said to emanate are often 532 00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:26,960 used as dog repellents like you often 533 00:19:30,549 --> 00:19:28,880 hear about uh you know sasquatch that 534 00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:30,559 smell like ammonia or like a very strong 535 00:19:34,230 --> 00:19:32,640 urine smell well ammonia is a great dog 536 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:34,240 repellent if you ever want a dog to not 537 00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:35,760 dig on a certain part of your lawn just 538 00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:37,039 spray it with ammonia because what 539 00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:39,200 happens is their sense of smell is so 540 00:19:42,870 --> 00:19:41,280 sensitive that that actually the the the 541 00:19:45,110 --> 00:19:42,880 whiff of that actually irritates their 542 00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:45,120 trigeminal nerve and ends up keeping the 543 00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:47,280 dog from from digging at all um so it's 544 00:19:50,549 --> 00:19:48,559 interesting it seems like there is some 545 00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:50,559 sort of interface between these smells 546 00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:52,160 and the reaction of small animals to 547 00:19:58,710 --> 00:19:54,720 them yeah i made the mistake of uh 548 00:19:59,830 --> 00:19:58,720 trying to combat a uh a rash of uh bare 549 00:20:01,909 --> 00:19:59,840 garbage 550 00:20:04,150 --> 00:20:01,919 aroma jeans in in the town i lived in in 551 00:20:05,909 --> 00:20:04,160 colorado i after about the third or 552 00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:05,919 fourth night i went out and sprayed 553 00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:07,120 ammonia 554 00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:11,280 on the uh on my you know my trash and uh 555 00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:13,200 the bear said well if you're gonna do 556 00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:15,840 that i'm gonna break into your house and 557 00:20:19,909 --> 00:20:18,799 go right into your refrigerator 558 00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:19,919 yeah 559 00:20:23,110 --> 00:20:21,520 with me and my girlfriend in the house 560 00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:23,120 she woke me up at one point and said 561 00:20:26,150 --> 00:20:24,240 honey 562 00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:26,160 there's something in the kitchen and i 563 00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:28,720 think it's bigger than a raccoon 564 00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:31,120 sure enough you know as a result i it's 565 00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:33,120 hard not to make the leap but as a 566 00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:36,080 result of just getting fed up and 567 00:20:40,149 --> 00:20:38,400 and really assaulting the bear's nose 568 00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:40,159 because ammonia will literally render 569 00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:41,280 them 570 00:20:44,789 --> 00:20:43,520 without the ability to smell for even a 571 00:20:46,870 --> 00:20:44,799 day or two 572 00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:46,880 the bear just basically said well uh 573 00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:48,240 you're going to ratchet it up i'm going 574 00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:50,640 to ratchet it up right back so you know 575 00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:52,480 it brings up another interesting point 576 00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:54,880 that uh you know we do get reports from 577 00:20:59,110 --> 00:20:56,320 time to time 578 00:21:03,110 --> 00:20:59,120 of um what people describe as aliens or 579 00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:03,120 ets as having a pneumonia smell have you 580 00:21:06,630 --> 00:21:04,960 kind of looked into that and do you have 581 00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:06,640 any theories about what that could be 582 00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:09,760 due to or um how often does that crop up 583 00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:11,039 in your research 584 00:21:14,789 --> 00:21:12,559 again i've discussed this idea earlier 585 00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:14,799 about plurality versus majority 586 00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:17,120 for anybody doesn't know if hillary gets 587 00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:20,000 51 of the vote she's got a majority if 588 00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:23,360 she gets 40 of the vote but you know the 589 00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:25,120 remaining 60 percent is split two ways 590 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:26,960 then she has a plurality so the most but 591 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:29,360 not a majority from what i can tell 592 00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:30,960 sulfur in all these cases is it pretty 593 00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:32,640 much represents a plurality and if you 594 00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:34,480 look at the other uh probably the second 595 00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:37,280 most common category specifically in ufo 596 00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:39,760 and uh ufo and 597 00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:41,200 abduction cases 598 00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:43,280 ammonia is a very common outlier as well 599 00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:45,120 in addition to ozone for example i 600 00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:47,520 believe it was in the uh the virginia 601 00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:49,200 ufo case some of the young girl 602 00:21:53,430 --> 00:21:51,200 witnesses said that they saw like this 603 00:21:55,190 --> 00:21:53,440 devil uh crouching in a corner of a 604 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,200 vacant lot that smelled like ammonia or 605 00:21:58,789 --> 00:21:57,360 sulfur again that frustrating thing 606 00:22:00,630 --> 00:21:58,799 where these are two very different 607 00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:00,640 smells but people tend to conflate them 608 00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:02,320 and it sort of gets it's difficult to 609 00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:04,480 parse it all out um as far as why that 610 00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:06,480 might happen i have some suspicions 611 00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:07,360 about 612 00:22:11,669 --> 00:22:08,720 well basically if you look at the if you 613 00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:11,679 look at the data the two main categories 614 00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:14,000 of these smells are sulfur smells and 615 00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:16,240 not sulfur smells and it's interesting 616 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:18,240 to note that all a lot of the not sulfur 617 00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:20,640 smells are typically very strong 618 00:22:24,390 --> 00:22:22,559 stimulants of the trigeminal nerve which 619 00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:24,400 is a nerve um if you've ever taken a big 620 00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:26,480 whiff of vinegar you've felt your 621 00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:28,080 trigeminal nerve activate it's what's 622 00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:29,280 actually one of the largest nerves in 623 00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:32,000 the face and i think that has probably a 624 00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:33,200 little bit too much to go into here and 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power cast 740 00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:36,710 well this is not a malodorous show 741 00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:38,159 despite what you think ladies and 742 00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:39,520 gentlemen we have a few critics out 743 00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:41,679 there who want to say all sorts of wacky 744 00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:44,159 stuff about us but no we've got joshua 745 00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:46,720 kutchen and when it comes to 746 00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:49,840 various odors particularly burnt sulfur 747 00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:51,600 ammonia etc in connection with the 748 00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:54,159 paranormal all bets are off you want to 749 00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:55,600 go on with what you were talking about 750 00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:57,120 in our previous segment before we had a 751 00:28:01,990 --> 00:27:59,919 break um sure certainly so i think that 752 00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:02,000 it's interesting that you have these 753 00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:04,000 sulfur smells that sit at basically the 754 00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:06,159 opposite end of a spectrum from a lot of 755 00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:07,840 these other smells that are strong 756 00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:09,520 components of the trigeminal nerve and i 757 00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:11,279 think that i think that whenever you're 758 00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:12,399 dealing with any of this stuff 759 00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:14,480 especially the ufo phenomena but pretty 760 00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:17,919 much any of it spirits ufo sasquatch you 761 00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:19,600 have to assume some degree of 762 00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:21,520 intentionality because especially again 763 00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:23,120 in the case of the ufo phenomena it 764 00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:25,039 whatever it is it's very much in control 765 00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:26,480 of how it's seen and how it's noticed 766 00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:27,520 etc 767 00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,440 and to assume that 768 00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:31,360 the smell isn't 769 00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:34,159 isn't deliberately controlled or isn't 770 00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:35,520 to assume that whatever intelligence 771 00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:37,120 this is doesn't realize that it smells 772 00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:39,600 to high heaven i think is a bit naive 773 00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:41,919 let me ask you briefly here we describe 774 00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:45,039 these specific odors and 775 00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:46,960 the question i have is 776 00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:49,679 are we interpreting something that we 777 00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:52,240 really don't have the answer for but 778 00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:54,080 we think it has to be burnt sulfur or 779 00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:56,320 something else that maybe there is a 780 00:29:02,230 --> 00:28:58,640 odor there that just is so alien to us 781 00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:02,240 we have to simplify it or our noses do 782 00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:03,919 so that seems like 783 00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:05,279 a very 784 00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:07,120 likely case until you really dig down 785 00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:09,279 into some of the literature um i mean 786 00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:12,240 obviously in western society heavily 787 00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:13,679 christian society judeo-christian 788 00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:14,720 society 789 00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:16,640 that would be a self-reinforcing meme 790 00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:18,480 that people would say oh it was evil 791 00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:20,880 some must have smelled bad but um there 792 00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:22,240 are plenty of cases from around the 793 00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:23,279 world 794 00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:24,720 where people will still describe this 795 00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,279 soul for a smell um for example in july 796 00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:29,760 1979 there was a young girl named sunan 797 00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:30,799 bomic 798 00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:32,640 um who claimed along with several other 799 00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:34,799 villagers that i believe she was in a 800 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:37,279 school house and there was a ufo that 801 00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:39,120 ended up like basically tearing the roof 802 00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:40,880 off of her skull and she said that um 803 00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:42,240 her school and she said that she fell 804 00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:44,480 over a metal sheet but actually smelled 805 00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:46,159 a smell in the air that smelled like a 806 00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:48,720 burning smell like gunpowder so that's 807 00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:51,600 obviously not a judeo-christian country 808 00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:54,080 and that you still see this uh same 809 00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:56,080 comparison reinforced in that in that 810 00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:57,520 particular culture 811 00:30:02,389 --> 00:29:59,760 now one thing you say in the liner notes 812 00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:02,399 of your book the brimstone deceit you 813 00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:04,159 refer to 814 00:30:09,029 --> 00:30:07,600 the fact that smell is a sense ripe for 815 00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:09,039 deception 816 00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:10,880 so if we can't trust our noses what do 817 00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:12,240 we trust 818 00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:13,840 well you know it's interesting 819 00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:15,679 smell because of the way that we're 820 00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:17,520 wired is 821 00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:19,760 is very closely tied to memory um people 822 00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:21,120 have actually there have actually been 823 00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:22,640 some studies that show a comparison 824 00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:25,279 between a diminishing sense of smell and 825 00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:26,480 a correlation between that and 826 00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:27,679 alzheimer's 827 00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:29,360 so you know something that terence 828 00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:31,440 mckenna used to talk about was the 829 00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:33,440 inefficiency of language 830 00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:36,000 and uh how you know basically i had to 831 00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,760 say something and you had to check your 832 00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:39,360 little dictionary inside your head and 833 00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:41,520 make sure that it actually compared well 834 00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:43,120 and as a as a counter to this he 835 00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:45,440 suggested telepathy or some sort of 836 00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:47,440 visual medium he often invoked the idea 837 00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:49,600 of the octopus which can change texture 838 00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:52,240 and color etc to sort of wear its 839 00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:54,000 feelings on its sleeve that's a good 840 00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:56,159 solution it's not the best solution 841 00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:57,200 though because if you think about the 842 00:31:01,350 --> 00:30:58,720 way that smell would interface with 843 00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,360 communication it would just cut straight 844 00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:03,120 to your 845 00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:04,399 emotional center you know you wouldn't 846 00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:05,200 have there were there would be no 847 00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:07,440 barriers with that um and so in that 848 00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:08,640 case 849 00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:09,360 if 850 00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:12,880 a i said intelligence were able to 851 00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:15,120 uh if an intelligence were able to 852 00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:16,640 have some sort of access to your 853 00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:17,679 memories 854 00:31:21,510 --> 00:31:19,760 and they were able to incorporate 855 00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:21,520 a smell they could actually 856 00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:23,600 really be quite manipulative in terms of 857 00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:25,039 conveying a message or in terms of 858 00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:28,080 making you feel a particular way 859 00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:29,840 yeah that's and that's a really good 860 00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:31,679 point and i think uh 861 00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:33,440 when i'm thinking about the the whole 862 00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:36,240 concept of memory and smell 863 00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:38,159 you know obviously the first thing that 864 00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:40,000 a person does is think back well what's 865 00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:42,080 the earliest thing i can smell and i can 866 00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:43,840 literally identify 867 00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:47,679 the earliest um you know kind of memory 868 00:31:51,350 --> 00:31:50,159 that i have actually as a very very 869 00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:51,360 young child 870 00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:53,760 and that is the smell of pickling my 871 00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:55,519 grandmother used to 872 00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:57,760 you know do her own pickling and 873 00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:00,559 whenever i smell you know not 874 00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:03,440 necessarily your store-bought kind of 875 00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:04,640 you know filled with all sorts of 876 00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:07,760 chemicals and stuff but whenever i smell 877 00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:11,440 fresh home pickling it always brings 878 00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:13,679 back that memory that that 879 00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:15,360 you know i can almost equate as one of 880 00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:17,760 one of my very very earliest memories 881 00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:20,159 and it's not sight it's not feeling its 882 00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:21,200 smell 883 00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:22,880 and i think that's a really important 884 00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:24,720 point that should be underlined 885 00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:26,320 yeah and it's completely involuntary so 886 00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:27,600 i mean like we spend all this time 887 00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,760 talking about screen memories and oh 888 00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:31,360 well you know the grays decided to 889 00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:33,440 project you know to look into my mind 890 00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:34,880 and project this particular image that 891 00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:36,240 had meaning to me but nobody ever really 892 00:32:40,830 --> 00:32:38,080 talks about the possibility that smell 893 00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:40,840 could could occupy that same that same 894 00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:44,080 position cadaverine and putrescine which 895 00:33:03,830 --> 00:32:44,960 i 896 00:33:05,110 --> 00:33:03,840 powerful 897 00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:05,120 those are i'm sorry that you cut out and 898 00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:07,360 that's right speaking over you um but 899 00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:09,120 yeah those are those are two very strong 900 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:10,880 primary components of the smell of decay 901 00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:12,000 they're also 902 00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:14,080 present in halitosis actually 903 00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:14,799 um 904 00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:16,720 but you know it's sort of a decay itself 905 00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:18,640 is sort of a bouquet 906 00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:19,600 you've got cadaverine you've got 907 00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:20,960 putrescine 908 00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:22,080 you've got 909 00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:24,480 methamphetal again dimethyl sulfide 910 00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:27,120 dimethyl trisulfide and hydrogen sulfide 911 00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:28,399 uh because of the way that the body 912 00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:30,080 breaks down so again you see these uh 913 00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:32,240 you see these these sulfuric components 914 00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:33,440 um two other components that are 915 00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:35,760 interesting in sort of that decay smell 916 00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:37,600 are scatol and endol 917 00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:38,640 i'm not sure if you're familiar with 918 00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:40,000 either of those but 919 00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:40,799 no 920 00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:42,159 say that again 921 00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:44,640 scattel and indole 922 00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:47,760 um so scatter is interesting because uh 923 00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:49,760 not only is it one of the reasons that 924 00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:53,360 feces smells distinct but it actually is 925 00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:56,080 a strong component in jasmine 926 00:34:00,549 --> 00:33:59,279 um and if you if you if you have just a 927 00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:00,559 little bit too much 928 00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:03,279 scatter or indole in your jasmine sense 929 00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:05,200 it sort of tips to the other way and it 930 00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:07,200 ends up smelling fecal 931 00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:08,720 which of course raises a whole host of 932 00:34:11,030 --> 00:34:10,159 other questions because one of the most 933 00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:11,040 common 934 00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:13,839 uh spirit smells ghost smells 935 00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:15,440 are women's perfumes and a lot of these 936 00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:17,520 a lot of cases have jasmine at the same 937 00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:20,079 time you have these decay you know fecal 938 00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:22,000 smells too so 939 00:34:26,069 --> 00:34:23,679 the lime starts to blur 940 00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:26,079 and again it's this idea that perhaps 941 00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:28,079 there might be intelligences that could 942 00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:29,359 use 943 00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:30,399 these 944 00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:33,359 subtle differences to you know to impart 945 00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:36,800 unto witnesses their true nature or or 946 00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:38,639 rather even more frightening they're not 947 00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:40,320 true nature being deceptive about it you 948 00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:43,760 know so if if if i were 949 00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:45,839 an intelligence of some sort 950 00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:47,040 and i'm being sort of vague with that 951 00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:48,399 term because i'm just referring to all 952 00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:51,119 these magonian phenomena um 953 00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:52,800 and i wished for you to have a pleasant 954 00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:54,720 experience i might you know use just the 955 00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:56,720 right amount of jasmine scent and if i 956 00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:58,240 wish for you to have an unpleasant 957 00:35:01,430 --> 00:35:00,160 experience i might tilt that balance in 958 00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:01,440 the other direction and actually you 959 00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:03,440 know make it smell foul because we can't 960 00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:04,640 separate 961 00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:05,440 um 962 00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:07,599 foul smells from their their 963 00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:08,960 connotations it's again it's this 964 00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:11,119 instantaneous reaction that we all have 965 00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:13,760 so you're trying to control people with 966 00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:16,240 their noses 967 00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:18,000 uh yeah i mean it's it's 968 00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:19,200 so 969 00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:21,680 there is plenty of evidence that this is 970 00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:23,359 this is a definite thing like people 971 00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:25,839 behave differently in a job interview 972 00:35:31,349 --> 00:35:26,640 when 973 00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:31,359 interview room smells clean um there was 974 00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:34,160 actually a uh an ad campaign in new york 975 00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:36,960 where the opposing party handed out 976 00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:38,560 leaflets that smelled like garbage that 977 00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:41,119 said let's dump so and so 978 00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:42,960 so it's the idea that you know like we 979 00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:45,760 already are using as a species 980 00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:48,560 uh smells to manipulate people um it's 981 00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:50,480 just so if we're doing that wouldn't 982 00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:51,839 some sort of other 983 00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:53,440 intelligence be it be literally 984 00:35:56,069 --> 00:35:54,960 extraterrestrial be it spiritual 985 00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:56,079 whatever 986 00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:57,599 it seems like they would definitely have 987 00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:59,200 called on to that and would be using 988 00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:00,880 that to the to the best of their 989 00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:02,800 abilities to manipulate us 990 00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:04,640 now one of the problems we have with 991 00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:07,680 modern paranormal events is the fact 992 00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:11,359 that most investigators like mufon etc 993 00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:13,680 they don't record 994 00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:16,000 the witnesses state of mind or what they 995 00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:17,440 smelled or what 996 00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:19,920 headed up the 997 00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:22,560 perception of something strange there 998 00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:25,359 how do we get people to look at that and 999 00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:27,280 pay serious attention because obviously 1000 00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:29,040 there's a lot of importance attached to 1001 00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:29,839 it 1002 00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:32,320 and other than 1003 00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:35,200 books like yours joshua it's a subject 1004 00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:36,560 that doesn't really get a lot of 1005 00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:38,640 coverage the book again is called the 1006 00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:40,240 brimstone 1007 00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:42,079 deceit 1008 00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:43,839 and the rear of the book he's got the 1009 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:46,720 phrase something foul 1010 00:36:59,370 --> 00:36:49,200 this way comes joshua cutchen with gina 1011 00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:00,470 [Applause] 1012 00:37:05,230 --> 00:37:04,000 thank you for 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1111 00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:05,680 visit sunshine pillows dot com sunshine 1112 00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:15,510 hi this is james fox from chasing ufos 1113 00:41:20,370 --> 00:41:17,680 you're listening to the paracast the 1114 00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:20,380 gold standard of paranormal radio 1115 00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:25,910 chris is really busy there trying to 1116 00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:26,960 find 1117 00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:29,040 a way of saying the power cast that 1118 00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:31,680 conveys an odor 1119 00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:32,560 the 1120 00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:33,599 cast 1121 00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:35,440 i was thinking of it this way too say 1122 00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:37,359 you have someone in your house you have 1123 00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:39,920 some guests and you're getting tired 1124 00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:42,800 of their presence you know it's time 1125 00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:44,800 to go to bed it's time to do something 1126 00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:46,880 else you want to get rid of them in a 1127 00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:50,640 subtle fashion so what you spray some 1128 00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:56,630 in theory but then again you know you've 1129 00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:59,680 got this this adaptability that we have 1130 00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:01,440 anybody who's ever entered a stinky room 1131 00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:03,680 knows that after some time 1132 00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:05,040 you know you don't notice the stink 1133 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,079 anymore 1134 00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:08,160 yeah it's true you uh you become a nerd 1135 00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:10,480 to it you become used to it but i'll 1136 00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:12,079 tell you there's one thing that uh you 1137 00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:14,720 know isadora my long time uh partner and 1138 00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:16,480 girlfriend in colorado 1139 00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:18,079 never got used to in fact she wouldn't 1140 00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:19,760 even let me in the house 1141 00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:22,160 after coming back from a 1142 00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:24,400 mutilated cow investigation where the 1143 00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:26,560 cow had been possibly sitting in the sun 1144 00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:27,280 for 1145 00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:29,839 an extra day too long and 1146 00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:31,440 there were a number of occasions where 1147 00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:33,760 she literally would make me strip 1148 00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:35,200 outside 1149 00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:36,240 and 1150 00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:38,960 she you know i just kind of hose myself 1151 00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:41,359 off with some soap and there was one 1152 00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:43,440 time it was so bad i even had to burn my 1153 00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:45,839 clothes or you know toss my clothes away 1154 00:42:49,109 --> 00:42:47,200 so 1155 00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:49,119 i know i'm not making that up i mean 1156 00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:50,000 that 1157 00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,079 out of all the you know investigations 1158 00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:54,480 that i want on my least favorite were um 1159 00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:56,720 you know overly necrotic uh 1160 00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:58,560 cows with hundreds of pounds of rotting 1161 00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:59,440 flesh 1162 00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:00,960 and i'll tell you those molecules are 1163 00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,920 extremely powerful and they 1164 00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:06,240 somehow de uh 1165 00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:08,400 spelling five for lack of 1166 00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:10,400 of a better term you can try to 1167 00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:13,119 deodorize yourself and i even had a 1168 00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:15,440 little bottle of ozium that that um you 1169 00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,760 know is that spray 1170 00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,599 you know odor neutralizer and i would 1171 00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:21,599 try to do that and there were a couple 1172 00:43:25,349 --> 00:43:23,440 times where even that didn't work and i 1173 00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:25,359 i literally had to toss clothes and take 1174 00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:27,680 cold showers with a hose outside 1175 00:43:31,589 --> 00:43:29,280 i know that you're telling the truth on 1176 00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:31,599 that because i have reams of cases where 1177 00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:33,440 people encountered smells and could not 1178 00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:35,760 get it off of them i mean you look at um 1179 00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:38,000 leroy wallace's widow said that um 1180 00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:40,640 supposedly after he went to clean up the 1181 00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:42,319 crash site at roswell he came home and 1182 00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:44,079 he had to strip off his clothes he 1183 00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:46,400 smelled like awful for like days and 1184 00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:48,800 days and days you find people who um 1185 00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:50,240 plenty of native american war where 1186 00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:51,680 people are abducted by sasquatch and 1187 00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:53,280 come back and they're ostracized by the 1188 00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:56,400 tribe because they smell so so badly um 1189 00:44:01,990 --> 00:43:58,160 so this is a very common theme in a lot 1190 00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:02,000 of these um sort of supernatural events 1191 00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:04,400 yeah that's uh believe me it's was my 1192 00:44:07,829 --> 00:44:05,839 least favorite thing to have to deal 1193 00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:07,839 with and and you know i would i would 1194 00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:09,920 have literally and i still do 1195 00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:12,480 in my little kind of mock doctor's bag 1196 00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:14,960 that i you know have ready to take out 1197 00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:16,640 on on mu cases 1198 00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:18,319 not so much anymore because i'm in 1199 00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,920 arizona where they're not reported that 1200 00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:21,280 often 1201 00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:23,200 and by choice i might add that i moved 1202 00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:24,240 here uh 1203 00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:25,920 that was one of the reasons 1204 00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:27,839 what about getting the odor out of the 1205 00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:29,839 car if it's on in your clothing do you 1206 00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:33,200 find that it also persists in your car 1207 00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:35,280 yeah uh there were a number of cases 1208 00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:36,960 where that was an issue 1209 00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:40,960 and those little pine air fresheners 1210 00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:43,599 only work so well 1211 00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:45,280 one thing i noticed here's a case it was 1212 00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:47,280 very interesting one of my most high 1213 00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:49,280 strange cases 1214 00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:50,880 you know i've i've mentioned it on on 1215 00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:53,359 the show a number of times but it was 1216 00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:55,839 it was out of 200 cases this was one of 1217 00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:57,680 five that was the most uh kind of 1218 00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:00,079 hair-raising and disturbing 1219 00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:03,200 and uh the animal wouldn't uh rot it was 1220 00:45:07,109 --> 00:45:05,119 it was a calf and was pulled in during 1221 00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:07,119 during the early spring into a heated 1222 00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:08,240 garage 1223 00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:11,280 and coming back four days after uh after 1224 00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:13,040 the the fact 1225 00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:16,240 there was still no smell of decay i kind 1226 00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:18,400 of summed up my courage and put my nose 1227 00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:20,160 really close uh 1228 00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:23,599 to the animal and i detected a 1229 00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:25,760 a very interesting 1230 00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:27,280 the only way i can describe it is like a 1231 00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:29,040 medicinal perfume 1232 00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:31,520 there were very very few scent molecules 1233 00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:33,280 i think in the air but but the ones that 1234 00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:35,359 were there were very powerful 1235 00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,160 and when i was driving away a couple of 1236 00:45:41,589 --> 00:45:40,800 couple three hours later i i noticed 1237 00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:41,599 some 1238 00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:43,760 hay that was on my my chest and i kind 1239 00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:46,720 of brushed it off and i got a slight 1240 00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:49,119 whiff of this medicinal 1241 00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:51,520 like a cr like a disinfectant perfume is 1242 00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:53,359 the only way i can describe it and there 1243 00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:56,240 again we go into the languaging problem 1244 00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:57,200 but 1245 00:46:01,829 --> 00:46:00,079 whatever this particular molecule was it 1246 00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:01,839 was extremely powerful there weren't 1247 00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:03,839 very many of them but they they just had 1248 00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:04,560 a 1249 00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:14,079 bit um you know it's interesting there 1250 00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:16,400 are several smell disorders which people 1251 00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:17,280 cite 1252 00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:19,040 in in you know sort of paranormal 1253 00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:20,640 literature um one of the things that 1254 00:46:25,589 --> 00:46:23,760 people cite often is phentasmia and 1255 00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:25,599 people erroneously cite fantasmia 1256 00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:26,880 because 1257 00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:28,640 a lot of times they'll say fantasmias 1258 00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:31,040 the smelling of of smells of of ghost 1259 00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:33,680 smells but that's not true fantasmia is 1260 00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:35,280 when you're in a room with three other 1261 00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:36,960 people and you're like i smell so-and-so 1262 00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:38,880 don't you smell so and so that's that's 1263 00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:41,680 fantasmia um and often it's a sign of a 1264 00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:42,480 more 1265 00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:44,480 serious neurological 1266 00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:46,079 neurological condition but the reason 1267 00:46:51,190 --> 00:46:49,200 that i bring it up is because um they're 1268 00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:51,200 it's sort of alarming to someone who's 1269 00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:53,839 interested in the paranormal 1270 00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:55,760 a lot of the most common fantasmic 1271 00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:58,800 smells in one study 1272 00:47:01,750 --> 00:46:59,920 are often 1273 00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:01,760 direct corollaries to what people smell 1274 00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:04,000 in paranormal encounters so 1275 00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:05,680 burning smells 1276 00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:08,400 rotten smells charring smells or the 1277 00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:09,920 reason i brought this up medicinal 1278 00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:11,599 smells as well 1279 00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,640 but you know 1280 00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:14,480 what's interesting it's a great band 1281 00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:15,359 name 1282 00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:16,880 fantasmia 1283 00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:19,680 yeah yeah uh the the epic one the the 1284 00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:21,920 opening epigraph of the book is uh is 1285 00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:23,599 introduces a new concept which is 1286 00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:25,520 fortosmia which is the smelling of 1287 00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:27,680 things that aren't supposed to exist 1288 00:47:32,069 --> 00:47:30,000 uh interesting i like that 1289 00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:32,079 you'd have a tough time trying to 1290 00:47:36,829 --> 00:47:34,000 describe that to somebody though that 1291 00:47:42,550 --> 00:47:39,430 exactly we're leaving that one for you 1292 00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:42,560 gene that was your pickup line 1293 00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:43,359 well 1294 00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:49,829 i know there's so many easy puns to make 1295 00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:51,200 and it's 1296 00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:53,599 like i can imagine some like 1297 00:47:56,550 --> 00:47:55,119 fifth grade kid getting a hold of my 1298 00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:56,560 book and laughing at all the times that 1299 00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:59,280 i have to talk about you know flatus 1300 00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:00,400 or 1301 00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:03,359 you know you had to talk about it you 1302 00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:04,480 know um 1303 00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:06,160 because again one of the the primary 1304 00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:09,119 malodorous component in farts is 1305 00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:10,800 hydrogen sulfide it's not methane as 1306 00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:13,200 people would suspect 1307 00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:14,319 yep 1308 00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:18,160 h2s h2s h2s there you go but you know we 1309 00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:20,400 have to talk about this i think 1310 00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:22,400 one one of my one of the moments that i 1311 00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:24,400 that i put in the book that i was just 1312 00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:25,920 just laughing at like what people were 1313 00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:28,240 gonna say about is um there was an idaho 1314 00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:29,680 witness who claimed to have encountered 1315 00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:30,800 bigfoot 1316 00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:32,960 and he he said that the smell reminded 1317 00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:36,559 him of when he was a lamb farmer and uh 1318 00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:38,559 whenever the sheep would give birth to a 1319 00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:41,040 dead lamb fetus that was the same smell 1320 00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:43,280 like man that's so disgustingly 1321 00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:44,880 evocative i never want to hear that 1322 00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:46,800 again oh man 1323 00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:49,040 yeah i mean it conjures up all sorts of 1324 00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:51,200 uh unpleasant uh 1325 00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:53,920 kind of very visceral sensations yeah 1326 00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:55,280 one thing that i've always been 1327 00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:58,079 intrigued by um as someone that spent 1328 00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:59,359 you know 1329 00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,880 over the course of my life quite a bit 1330 00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:02,640 of time outdoors 1331 00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:04,480 and you know being 1332 00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:05,520 around 1333 00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:08,319 outfitters trackers um you know those 1334 00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:10,960 sorts of people that are really uh 1335 00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:12,880 really aware of 1336 00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:14,319 their environment when they're out in 1337 00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,160 the outdoors and one of the things that 1338 00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:18,720 i always found very fascinating is many 1339 00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:21,359 wild animals when they have young 1340 00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:23,440 uh the young for the first few months of 1341 00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:24,480 their life 1342 00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:27,839 lack a smell as and obviously that's 1343 00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:30,480 been developed you know over time as a 1344 00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:33,200 you know mechanism to to hide offspring 1345 00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:35,440 from you know possible predators and you 1346 00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:37,839 know for instance deer and elk not only 1347 00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:40,160 do they have dappled fur to help them 1348 00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:42,319 blend into uh you know the dappled 1349 00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:44,480 sunshine going through 1350 00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:45,440 you know 1351 00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:47,280 brambles or wherever they're being 1352 00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:48,160 hidden 1353 00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:52,160 but they also uh lack a smell which 1354 00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:54,000 obviously is 1355 00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,400 you know increases their chances of you 1356 00:50:01,109 --> 00:49:58,160 know making it through those crucial few 1357 00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:01,119 months at the beginning of their life so 1358 00:50:05,750 --> 00:50:03,839 i'm sure the reverse is true too uh 1359 00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:05,760 you know and i i really am intrigued by 1360 00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:09,359 the whole concept of of smell being used 1361 00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:10,640 as a 1362 00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:13,520 a form of manipulation or a form of of 1363 00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:14,960 subterfuge 1364 00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,040 by whatever intelligences are behind 1365 00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:19,520 some of these um types of phenomenal 1366 00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:21,440 events that we're talking about and 1367 00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:24,319 and um i guess if you can hide 1368 00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:26,960 your baby with uh you know a lack of 1369 00:50:31,109 --> 00:50:28,880 smell you could uh 1370 00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:31,119 well basically uh 1371 00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:32,960 you know if you can hide the smell of 1372 00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:36,079 your offspring as a some sort of sort of 1373 00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:37,920 defensive mechanism 1374 00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:41,040 to program in smells uh could be very 1375 00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:43,200 very um 1376 00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:45,760 nefarious uh in terms of 1377 00:50:50,069 --> 00:50:47,920 of taking people in 1378 00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:50,079 in almost a subliminal way 1379 00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:51,200 could be a 1380 00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:53,359 some form of of disinformation or 1381 00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:56,640 programming in uh some sort of nefarious 1382 00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:59,680 subterfuge excellent point yes indeed 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00:54:15,040 and now 1459 00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:18,350 here's gene steinberg 1460 00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:24,790 see right now we're on over two dozen 1461 00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:27,599 radio stations in the united states 1462 00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:30,480 and people will say oh my god gene and 1463 00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:34,400 chris are becoming like howard stern 1464 00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:36,160 i'm not going to say anything 1465 00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:38,400 man it took a lot to to 1466 00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:41,040 hold that back for the right moment hey 1467 00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:43,280 i've got a tuba up here so we can we can 1468 00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:45,440 make all sorts of fun noises 1469 00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:47,200 no we don't 1470 00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:48,720 where's that whoopee cushion when you 1471 00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:53,349 whoopi goldberg 1472 00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:56,240 yeah whoopi after a night at the uh the 1473 00:55:02,390 --> 00:54:58,240 local mexican restaurant 1474 00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:02,400 oh say yes that was a showstopper 1475 00:55:06,069 --> 00:55:03,839 right you keep doing that we're just 1476 00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:06,079 gonna have hours of silence in fact 1477 00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:07,359 we're gonna have a special episode of 1478 00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:08,960 the power cast where 1479 00:55:18,150 --> 00:55:16,470 that would be special gene 1480 00:55:22,790 --> 00:55:18,160 like the john cage version of the 1481 00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,549 what was it called the silent uh 1482 00:55:28,230 --> 00:55:26,480 symphony or something where he sat there 1483 00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:28,240 for a half hour and didn't do a thing 1484 00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:29,280 and 1485 00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:30,960 everybody kind of clapped at the end 1486 00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:32,400 thinking 1487 00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:33,440 that was 1488 00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:34,559 different 1489 00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:35,760 it was it was 1490 00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:39,839 33 seconds of just sitting there at the 1491 00:55:47,829 --> 00:55:45,829 oh man and we could we could go in many 1492 00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:47,839 directions uh with this particular 1493 00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:49,680 subject 1494 00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:51,359 and uh 1495 00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:53,680 you know your book does uh 1496 00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:55,520 you know kind of approach it uh very 1497 00:55:59,190 --> 00:55:57,839 methodically in terms of the types of 1498 00:56:02,309 --> 00:55:59,200 smells but 1499 00:56:06,190 --> 00:56:02,319 you know the whole idea again of of 1500 00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:06,200 smell as a form of subterfuge or 1501 00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:08,799 disinformation or programming in 1502 00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:11,440 uncertainty into a particular 1503 00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:13,440 you know phenomenal event 1504 00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:15,599 i've never really really considered that 1505 00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:18,000 before and i i think it's a very 1506 00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:20,640 interesting concept of of using a very 1507 00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:23,599 primal uh sense and using it to 1508 00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:26,079 manipulate uh the impact of 1509 00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:27,760 a particular event 1510 00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:29,760 you know i i think we should uh discuss 1511 00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:32,559 that a little bit more uh 1512 00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:33,680 you know that's 1513 00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:35,520 that's again that's part of my goal like 1514 00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:38,079 i i feel like you know the world doesn't 1515 00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:40,400 need another roswell book what they need 1516 00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:41,280 are 1517 00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:43,440 books that talk about things that no one 1518 00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:45,599 has thought about before and that's sort 1519 00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:47,920 of the the niche that i hope that i'm 1520 00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:49,680 carving out between you know a trojan 1521 00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:51,200 feast in this book 1522 00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:52,880 i'm just trying to get people to i mean 1523 00:56:57,910 --> 00:56:55,599 you know if if people take this concept 1524 00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:57,920 and run with other things like you know 1525 00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,200 something tim bernal and i have kicked 1526 00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:01,040 back and forth a lot is you know 1527 00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:02,480 why doesn't someone write a book on the 1528 00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:05,359 effect of ufos on small animals like on 1529 00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:07,440 the effect of ufos on pets like 1530 00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:08,640 there could be something really 1531 00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:09,760 important in there there could be 1532 00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:11,599 something really fascinating in there 1533 00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:14,480 some sort of additional insight because 1534 00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:16,799 as i've been fond of saying we keep on 1535 00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:18,480 we're missing the uh we're missing the 1536 00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:20,319 forest for the trees to sort of invert 1537 00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:22,480 that sort of old adage on its head 1538 00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:24,079 we're too busy trying to solve the big 1539 00:57:28,789 --> 00:57:26,720 question of what these phenomena are as 1540 00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:28,799 opposed to looking at little individual 1541 00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:30,559 aspects of them and perhaps you know 1542 00:57:35,109 --> 00:57:33,280 being able to spin those out into 1543 00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:35,119 a more robust understanding of the 1544 00:57:44,309 --> 00:57:41,430 you see he's trying the john cage trick 1545 00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:46,309 or maybe we just lost him i don't know 1546 00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:48,960 well he's been having weird problems 1547 00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:50,799 with his connection his internet 1548 00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:53,760 connection smells 1549 00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:56,400 that's just a bad joke 1550 00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:58,160 a little fishy 1551 00:58:02,309 --> 00:58:00,240 yeah very much so 1552 00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:02,319 one way to get rid of me by the way the 1553 00:58:08,950 --> 00:58:05,520 smell of eggs the smell of seafood 1554 00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:08,960 if it's really abundant i'm elsewhere 1555 00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:10,240 very quickly 1556 00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:12,240 so the reason that you associate rotten 1557 00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:14,960 eggs with hydrogen sulfide is because 1558 00:58:19,589 --> 00:58:17,520 hydrogen sulfide appears wherever 1559 00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:19,599 there is decomposition in the absence of 1560 00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:21,280 oxygen so 1561 00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:22,880 a rotten egg would definitely you know 1562 00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:24,880 sort of fit that bill but um there's 1563 00:58:28,309 --> 00:58:26,400 still a strong 1564 00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:28,319 sulphurous component 1565 00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:29,520 in eggs 1566 00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:31,599 the actual um 1567 00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:34,000 the a lot of the hard 1568 00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:36,480 rigid parts of the physiology of many 1569 00:58:42,549 --> 00:58:38,720 animals including eggshells feathers 1570 00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:42,559 hair fingernails um is due in part to uh 1571 00:58:46,470 --> 00:58:44,720 to keratin which has 1572 00:58:47,589 --> 00:58:46,480 sulfur as well as its primary components 1573 00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:47,599 it's the reason that you know whenever 1574 00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:49,680 these components are burned they smell 1575 00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:51,040 as well 1576 00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:53,680 speaking of odors and lack of odors 1577 00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:56,319 my dog teddy bear is a bichon and a 1578 00:59:01,829 --> 00:58:58,799 bichon is known not to have 1579 00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:01,839 very much of a doggy odor or the kind of 1580 00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:04,640 odor you attach to a dog is that a 1581 00:59:09,990 --> 00:59:07,760 genetic issue or what 1582 00:59:11,109 --> 00:59:10,000 you know the reason that dogs smell is 1583 00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:11,119 because 1584 00:59:16,150 --> 00:59:12,400 whenever they're 1585 00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:16,160 are a couple of different components 1586 00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:18,640 so yeast and bacteria and canine fur 1587 00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:21,280 actually create a difference of volatile 1588 00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:23,359 compounds which are ended up they they 1589 00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:25,119 get displaced and freed by the presence 1590 00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:26,880 and evaporation of water and there are 1591 00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:29,200 also sebaceous glands that are that 1592 00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:31,520 produce sebum is the actual name of the 1593 00:59:36,309 --> 00:59:34,720 um the substance this type of oil um so 1594 00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:36,319 it helps the dog be waterproof but it 1595 00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:38,400 also gives them that that nasty dog 1596 00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,480 smell um 1597 00:59:43,270 --> 00:59:42,240 so obviously certain brands certain 1598 00:59:45,270 --> 00:59:43,280 brands 1599 00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:45,280 certain breeds have this problem more 1600 00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:47,359 than others um but it's interesting 1601 00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:49,920 because you know uh wet dog smells one 1602 00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:51,920 of the more common sasquatch smells 1603 00:59:56,710 --> 00:59:53,599 after you know this whole hydrogen 1604 00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:56,720 sulfide rotten egg smell 1605 01:00:01,349 --> 00:59:59,440 and it's interesting to note that 1606 01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:01,359 of all the great apes 1607 01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:02,880 human beings might be one of the 1608 01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:04,960 smelliest um basically what that means 1609 01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:06,640 is that you know if chimpanzees and 1610 01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:08,960 gorillas took baths as frequently as we 1611 01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:11,200 did they might smell better than we do 1612 01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:13,200 which is surprising um but we have these 1613 01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:15,680 same sebaceous glands as well so 1614 01:00:19,670 --> 01:00:17,680 the question is is that if we are one of 1615 01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:19,680 the smellier great apes and we have this 1616 01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:22,400 sort of rotten egg sebaceous oil 1617 01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:24,000 um not rotten eggs basically sort of a 1618 01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:25,839 wet dog sebaceous oil 1619 01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:27,200 oozing out of us 1620 01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:28,960 does that tilt the interpretation of 1621 01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:31,440 sasquatch into the 1622 01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:34,079 uh ape-like human versus human-like ape 1623 01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:34,960 can't 1624 01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:36,559 i think there's there's something to be 1625 01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:39,200 you know examined in that um because you 1626 01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:41,680 do you do run to this wet dog smell with 1627 01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:44,480 uh with sasquatch quite a bit 1628 01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:46,640 really i wasn't aware of that i i can't 1629 01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:48,160 recall a single 1630 01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:49,040 wet 1631 01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:51,440 fur i've heard that but but actually 1632 01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:53,440 equating that smell to a dog smell i'm 1633 01:00:56,870 --> 01:00:55,040 not familiar with that 1634 01:00:59,030 --> 01:00:56,880 yeah um i mean i i could go through 1635 01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:59,040 certain cases but um it was one of the 1636 01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:00,480 more common ones that i found again with 1637 01:01:05,589 --> 01:01:02,960 sasquatch you run into this thing where 1638 01:01:08,630 --> 01:01:05,599 uh it's it's usually rarely ever just 1639 01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:08,640 one thing you know it's wet dog that 1640 01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:10,720 also smelled like 1641 01:01:14,069 --> 01:01:12,640 you know a rotting corpse or something 1642 01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:14,079 um 1643 01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:15,920 you know a lot of sasquatch reports from 1644 01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:18,240 alaska especially in the ketchikan area 1645 01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:20,640 um have a real wet dog smell um there 1646 01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:21,839 was a couple in allegheny county 1647 01:01:26,789 --> 01:01:24,799 pennsylvania in the 70s who saw a i 1648 01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:26,799 believe it was a white bigfoot that was 1649 01:01:30,230 --> 01:01:28,319 rummaging through their garbage that 1650 01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:30,240 smelled like a skunk and a wet dog 1651 01:01:34,870 --> 01:01:32,480 combined so you do run into these cases 1652 01:01:36,470 --> 01:01:34,880 from time to time um you know as far as 1653 01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:36,480 bigfoot goes because like let's face it 1654 01:01:40,390 --> 01:01:38,400 that's probably the smelliest thing 1655 01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:40,400 the books three three main sections are 1656 01:01:43,510 --> 01:01:42,160 spirits ufos bigfoot and then i talk 1657 01:01:45,670 --> 01:01:43,520 about like everything else which is you 1658 01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:45,680 know lake monsters men and black black 1659 01:01:50,710 --> 01:01:49,119 eyed kids etc um but uh bigfoot bigfoot 1660 01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:50,720 has a reputation as being the stinkiest 1661 01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:52,960 of the bunch and so with bigfoot cases 1662 01:01:57,510 --> 01:01:54,799 you find this soul fear of smell usually 1663 01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:57,520 hydrogen sulfide but you'll also find 1664 01:02:03,990 --> 01:02:01,119 wet dog skunk decomposition human body 1665 01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:04,000 odor and ammonia or urine these are all 1666 01:02:08,390 --> 01:02:06,960 really common bigfoot smells um yeah 1667 01:02:10,309 --> 01:02:08,400 bigfoot it's like you know it's an 1668 01:02:11,910 --> 01:02:10,319 embarrassment of riches when trying to 1669 01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:11,920 to pin down the number of bigfoot cases 1670 01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:14,079 that involve a smell um i know that john 1671 01:02:18,150 --> 01:02:16,720 green at one point said that there was 1672 01:02:21,030 --> 01:02:18,160 there weren't that many cases that 1673 01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:21,040 involved smell and bigfoot reports but 1674 01:02:23,349 --> 01:02:22,000 uh 1675 01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:23,359 and in my experience that's not really 1676 01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:24,960 the case of course john green was 1677 01:02:28,950 --> 01:02:27,599 looking at pacific northwest bigfoot so 1678 01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:28,960 you know when you bring in the skunk ape 1679 01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:31,599 from florida like almost every skunk ape 1680 01:02:35,829 --> 01:02:33,119 encounter has definitely has a smell 1681 01:02:38,230 --> 01:02:35,839 component is it partly because people 1682 01:02:40,150 --> 01:02:38,240 don't ask that question 1683 01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:40,160 i wouldn't doubt it um 1684 01:02:45,349 --> 01:02:42,640 i wouldn't doubt it at all um 1685 01:02:48,789 --> 01:02:45,359 i mean because we we tend to undervalue 1686 01:02:50,390 --> 01:02:48,799 smell in a lot of cases um 1687 01:02:55,510 --> 01:02:50,400 i 1688 01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:55,520 well where um 1689 01:02:59,670 --> 01:02:58,160 bigfoot tend to smell more when 1690 01:03:01,270 --> 01:02:59,680 they've noticed the witness if that 1691 01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:01,280 makes any sense 1692 01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:03,280 um so you'll find cases where people 1693 01:03:07,030 --> 01:03:05,359 claim to have been spying on a bigfoot 1694 01:03:08,630 --> 01:03:07,040 but not smell anything versus cases 1695 01:03:10,390 --> 01:03:08,640 where they look at a big they turn 1696 01:03:11,589 --> 01:03:10,400 around and a bigfoot is staring at them 1697 01:03:13,030 --> 01:03:11,599 and then they'll get this hit by the 1698 01:03:14,470 --> 01:03:13,040 smell but also there's this there's this 1699 01:03:16,390 --> 01:03:14,480 possibility that 1700 01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:16,400 in some cases the smell will turn on and 1701 01:03:19,990 --> 01:03:17,920 off just like a valve or like a you know 1702 01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:20,000 a deliberate synth gland sort of thing 1703 01:03:23,990 --> 01:03:22,640 um which raises a whole another host of 1704 01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:24,000 questions and hopefully this book is 1705 01:03:28,309 --> 01:03:26,160 sort of like the definitive answer on 1706 01:03:30,230 --> 01:03:28,319 whether or not bigfoot have synth lands 1707 01:03:31,670 --> 01:03:30,240 and if they do what the implications of 1708 01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:31,680 that are 1709 01:03:37,029 --> 01:03:34,720 the book is called the brimstone deceit 1710 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01:08:35,440 probably the most well-known 1824 01:08:39,430 --> 01:08:37,679 description of smells in the paranormal 1825 01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:39,440 if you want to equate bigfoot with 1826 01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:40,560 paranormal 1827 01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:44,640 uh events is that whole aspect of smell 1828 01:08:51,749 --> 01:08:47,199 and from personal experience i i you 1829 01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:51,759 know i've recounted my particular 1979 1830 01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:53,600 whatever this thing was and it was one 1831 01:08:58,470 --> 01:08:55,679 of the most unique 1832 01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:58,480 uh nastiest uh smells that i've ever 1833 01:09:01,349 --> 01:09:00,560 smelled and it was not a single smell it 1834 01:09:02,390 --> 01:09:01,359 had 1835 01:09:10,550 --> 01:09:02,400 it 1836 01:09:13,590 --> 01:09:10,560 and uh you know besides the body odor 1837 01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:13,600 kind of almost a feces type smell 1838 01:09:18,950 --> 01:09:16,960 combined with um sweat um 1839 01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:18,960 you know a skunky 1840 01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:20,480 very cloying 1841 01:09:25,349 --> 01:09:22,480 like human skunk is the only way i could 1842 01:09:27,189 --> 01:09:25,359 i could really a skunk man 1843 01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:27,199 yeah like a skunk ape or a skunk man 1844 01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:30,080 exactly and you know i'm wondering uh 1845 01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:32,319 thinking back on that experience it 1846 01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:34,719 seemed like something that was naturally 1847 01:09:37,829 --> 01:09:35,679 there 1848 01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:37,839 that the wind shifted possibly or the 1849 01:09:41,749 --> 01:09:39,440 breeze shifted at the right moment so 1850 01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:41,759 that so that you know myself and my 1851 01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:44,080 buddy could smell it but i'm wondering i 1852 01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:44,880 mean 1853 01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:48,239 could these actually be smells that are 1854 01:09:53,749 --> 01:09:51,359 selectively uh triggered on and off uh 1855 01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:53,759 are we we dealing with something that 1856 01:09:57,910 --> 01:09:55,920 is just a byproduct of the creature's 1857 01:10:00,149 --> 01:09:57,920 presence or is it actually 1858 01:10:01,590 --> 01:10:00,159 a component that they're able to use and 1859 01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:01,600 like you just mentioned in the previous 1860 01:10:05,830 --> 01:10:03,600 segment you know almost turn it on or 1861 01:10:08,310 --> 01:10:05,840 off you know where do you go with that 1862 01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:08,320 how do you uh how do you feel about that 1863 01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:10,400 you have is there any indications that 1864 01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:12,880 you have that this could possibly be 1865 01:10:16,390 --> 01:10:14,320 something that could be 1866 01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:16,400 turned on and off at will and possibly 1867 01:10:21,510 --> 01:10:19,440 even uh different aspects of a smell or 1868 01:10:23,830 --> 01:10:21,520 combination of smells could be could be 1869 01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:23,840 utilized as some sort of uh 1870 01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:25,760 you know willful defense mechanism 1871 01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:27,760 that's an excellent question and to sort 1872 01:10:31,830 --> 01:10:29,760 of give you some idea of my line of 1873 01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:31,840 thought on that i um had to sort of 1874 01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:34,320 backtrack a little bit to the ufo topic 1875 01:10:37,750 --> 01:10:36,000 um there was a gentleman by the name of 1876 01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:37,760 antonio f roulon 1877 01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:40,159 who uh wrote a 1878 01:10:45,910 --> 01:10:42,400 one of the first papers 1879 01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:45,920 on ufos and smells it's a great work um 1880 01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:47,600 i recommend it in the acknowledgement 1881 01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:49,840 section of my book as like required 1882 01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:51,600 reading like a required companion piece 1883 01:10:56,229 --> 01:10:53,440 for this book but he he put forth 1884 01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:56,239 several hypotheses to describe 1885 01:10:59,910 --> 01:10:57,280 the 1886 01:11:01,830 --> 01:10:59,920 sort of possibilities of where smells 1887 01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:01,840 and ufo encounters came from you know 1888 01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:03,679 the environment is it the object's 1889 01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:05,520 effect on the environment is it purely 1890 01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:07,679 from the object you know etc 1891 01:11:10,630 --> 01:11:09,360 so with this in mind i sort of i sort of 1892 01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:10,640 developed a similar system for 1893 01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:12,320 categorizing 1894 01:11:15,830 --> 01:11:14,640 uh sasquatch smell 1895 01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:15,840 reports 1896 01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:17,679 so 1897 01:11:21,270 --> 01:11:19,199 the the four main categories that we've 1898 01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:21,280 got to look at are 1899 01:11:24,149 --> 01:11:22,640 endogenous 1900 01:11:27,510 --> 01:11:24,159 intentional 1901 01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:27,520 which would be a scent gland 1902 01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:29,440 endogenous unintentional which would be 1903 01:11:34,390 --> 01:11:31,920 like some sort of bigfoot body odor 1904 01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:34,400 um exogenous 1905 01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:35,760 intentional which would be some sort of 1906 01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:37,040 smell in the environment that's applied 1907 01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:39,679 to the bigfoot deliberately or exogenous 1908 01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:42,400 unintentional which would be you know 1909 01:11:48,070 --> 01:11:44,880 bigfoot happens to sleep in a bunch of 1910 01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:48,080 you know in a dank cave that smells like 1911 01:11:51,830 --> 01:11:50,560 you know sulfur or bigfoot baits in a 1912 01:11:55,270 --> 01:11:51,840 hot spring or something that's more like 1913 01:11:56,709 --> 01:11:55,280 sulfur so residual yeah basically all of 1914 01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:56,719 these have been have been you know 1915 01:12:00,390 --> 01:11:58,880 proposed various at various um at 1916 01:12:01,350 --> 01:12:00,400 various junctures 1917 01:12:02,709 --> 01:12:01,360 um 1918 01:12:07,590 --> 01:12:02,719 so 1919 01:12:09,830 --> 01:12:07,600 exogenous intentional um hypothesis um i 1920 01:12:11,830 --> 01:12:09,840 know jc johnson had a video a while back 1921 01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:11,840 where he proposed that bigfoot actually 1922 01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:14,480 harvests the scent glands from skunks 1923 01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:16,400 and rubbish i'm just gonna mention that 1924 01:12:21,189 --> 01:12:17,199 yeah 1925 01:12:22,310 --> 01:12:21,199 that's a really fascinating possibility 1926 01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:22,320 it's an interesting compelling 1927 01:12:25,590 --> 01:12:23,760 possibility and it's interesting in the 1928 01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:25,600 fact that like you know sometimes you'll 1929 01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:27,360 get the skunk smell overlaid with other 1930 01:12:32,229 --> 01:12:29,440 smells um so i definitely make a point 1931 01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:32,239 to to you know address that but as far 1932 01:12:38,149 --> 01:12:35,280 as scent glands go so the question isn't 1933 01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:38,159 whether or not bigfoot has a scent gland 1934 01:12:42,550 --> 01:12:40,560 if it's a mammal it has a sym gland like 1935 01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:42,560 we have scent glands ourselves 1936 01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:44,880 the real question is a is it strong 1937 01:12:48,149 --> 01:12:46,560 smelling and b 1938 01:12:50,790 --> 01:12:48,159 is it 1939 01:12:52,709 --> 01:12:50,800 voluntary right usually generally 1940 01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:52,719 speaking when we think of scent glands 1941 01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:55,120 we think of uh the mustelids so we think 1942 01:12:59,830 --> 01:12:56,400 of 1943 01:13:02,390 --> 01:12:59,840 minks and wolverines and skunks etc that 1944 01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:02,400 have some sort of degree of control over 1945 01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:05,040 their particular you know physiology but 1946 01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:07,199 there are uh there there's an emerging 1947 01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:09,199 field of research of skunk of skunk 1948 01:13:14,229 --> 01:13:10,960 glands of scent glands rather in 1949 01:13:16,470 --> 01:13:14,239 primates um it's becoming very apparent 1950 01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:16,480 in recent research like literally like 1951 01:13:21,830 --> 01:13:20,640 the past two years three years um 1952 01:13:25,590 --> 01:13:21,840 where 1953 01:13:28,709 --> 01:13:25,600 uh big bigfoot gorillas have been noted 1954 01:13:30,790 --> 01:13:28,719 to be able to control certain scents 1955 01:13:33,669 --> 01:13:30,800 that they release um 1956 01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:33,679 in uh in in certain 1957 01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:36,000 in certain contexts so either you know 1958 01:13:40,709 --> 01:13:38,320 uh conversing with other dominant males 1959 01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:40,719 or being frightened but as far as a 1960 01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:43,600 deliberately released scent gland a 1961 01:13:47,830 --> 01:13:45,360 deliberately controlled sibling gland 1962 01:13:50,149 --> 01:13:47,840 for a primate the evidence is kind of 1963 01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:50,159 sketchy um and of course then you have 1964 01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:52,000 this other question that sort of arises 1965 01:13:55,910 --> 01:13:54,000 which is why would bigfoot need us 1966 01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:55,920 why would bigfoot need to warn somebody 1967 01:13:59,350 --> 01:13:57,520 away because they're you know eight or 1968 01:14:00,870 --> 01:13:59,360 nine or ten feet tall like i think they 1969 01:14:02,470 --> 01:14:00,880 can take care of themselves without just 1970 01:14:04,229 --> 01:14:02,480 frightening something away with 1971 01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:04,239 with um 1972 01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:06,400 with scent um 1973 01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:07,440 but you've got to look at you know 1974 01:14:09,430 --> 01:14:08,320 you've got to look at the literature 1975 01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:09,440 where sometimes they don't smell 1976 01:14:13,510 --> 01:14:10,960 sometimes people will 1977 01:14:15,030 --> 01:14:13,520 will notice that bigfoot scent 1978 01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:15,040 like suddenly hits them and suddenly 1979 01:14:19,510 --> 01:14:17,120 goes away um there there seems to be a 1980 01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:19,520 very deliberate component to that um i 1981 01:14:23,430 --> 01:14:22,000 think part of the time this might be 1982 01:14:25,270 --> 01:14:23,440 you know i'm on the fence as to whether 1983 01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:25,280 or not bigfoot is a biological entity or 1984 01:14:30,149 --> 01:14:26,960 something stranger i think part of the 1985 01:14:31,750 --> 01:14:30,159 time um it might be one answer in my 1986 01:14:33,910 --> 01:14:31,760 mind that the scent gland hypothesis 1987 01:14:35,270 --> 01:14:33,920 might be correct but um some of the 1988 01:14:37,590 --> 01:14:35,280 other time i think that's there might be 1989 01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:37,600 something stranger going on 1990 01:14:41,590 --> 01:14:39,600 yeah and you know the whole idea of 1991 01:14:43,510 --> 01:14:41,600 being able to control 1992 01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:43,520 not only 1993 01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:45,199 the very idea that 1994 01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:47,760 bigfoot can control the types of smells 1995 01:14:52,950 --> 01:14:50,480 that emanate from them 1996 01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:52,960 is very intriguing i don't really see 1997 01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:54,400 enough evidence 1998 01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:55,360 in the 1999 01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:57,440 you know the literature to make a 2000 01:15:01,270 --> 01:14:59,679 determination like that but 2001 01:15:03,110 --> 01:15:01,280 based on 2002 01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:03,120 just a handful of cases that i've i've 2003 01:15:06,630 --> 01:15:05,360 been involved with um which didn't 2004 01:15:09,030 --> 01:15:06,640 involve a 2005 01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:09,040 smell in my own personal experience i 2006 01:15:12,790 --> 01:15:10,560 think it would be very very difficult to 2007 01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:12,800 determine that but you know the very 2008 01:15:17,030 --> 01:15:15,840 idea that an animal could selectively 2009 01:15:18,149 --> 01:15:17,040 emit 2010 01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:18,159 various 2011 01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:20,640 qualities of voter or types of odor is 2012 01:15:25,189 --> 01:15:23,600 is intriguing and i think it deserves uh 2013 01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:25,199 some attention 2014 01:15:29,430 --> 01:15:27,440 even stranger i'm sorry i was just even 2015 01:15:31,189 --> 01:15:29,440 stranger some people have come like 2016 01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:31,199 cited numerous smells in the same 2017 01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:32,320 encounter 2018 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01:21:40,000 josh to come up with uh an angle 2161 01:21:43,750 --> 01:21:41,440 that really has never been addressed 2162 01:21:45,510 --> 01:21:43,760 before uh you know as a body of of 2163 01:21:46,870 --> 01:21:45,520 inquiry i do think you're on the right 2164 01:21:48,390 --> 01:21:46,880 track and i 2165 01:21:49,510 --> 01:21:48,400 i can't wait for 2166 01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:49,520 you know how are you going to follow 2167 01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:56,470 works uh up well first we went from food 2168 01:22:00,149 --> 01:21:58,080 to uh smells and i'm wondering where are 2169 01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:00,159 you gonna go next with this i love it i 2170 01:22:04,149 --> 01:22:02,800 i feel painted into a corner in a bit my 2171 01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:04,159 my next thing that i'd like to do would 2172 01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:05,920 not be quite so 2173 01:22:09,270 --> 01:22:07,760 broad topic-oriented um i've kicked 2174 01:22:11,510 --> 01:22:09,280 around the idea of a lyle 2175 01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:11,520 blackburn-esque investigation of the 2176 01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:14,080 kelly hopkinsville goblins 2177 01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:15,360 i think i think that that's the case 2178 01:22:18,870 --> 01:22:16,960 it's worthy of its own long-form 2179 01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:18,880 treatment but um yeah again the idea is 2180 01:22:22,390 --> 01:22:21,040 like to to take a look and be like 2181 01:22:24,070 --> 01:22:22,400 what's a subject that's been covered in 2182 01:22:26,550 --> 01:22:24,080 a lot of chapters and books but nobody 2183 01:22:28,790 --> 01:22:26,560 has ever dedicated a book to it this is 2184 01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:28,800 the next big giant bullseye that i saw 2185 01:22:32,950 --> 01:22:30,000 that's for sure 2186 01:22:34,629 --> 01:22:32,960 we've been talking about a lot of rather 2187 01:22:36,950 --> 01:22:34,639 questionable uh 2188 01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:36,960 in terms of positive and negative 2189 01:22:41,270 --> 01:22:38,480 there are examples 2190 01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:41,280 in the literature especially in the 2191 01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:43,600 realm of religious miracles where you 2192 01:22:48,310 --> 01:22:45,360 have the opposite 2193 01:22:49,590 --> 01:22:48,320 you have the smell of roses you have 2194 01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:49,600 perfume 2195 01:22:54,310 --> 01:22:52,080 more pleasant smells that are associated 2196 01:22:56,470 --> 01:22:54,320 with particular event or events 2197 01:22:58,470 --> 01:22:56,480 you know the the smell of roses is one 2198 01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:58,480 that's always intrigued me you know the 2199 01:23:02,470 --> 01:23:00,639 whole idea of of um 2200 01:23:03,669 --> 01:23:02,480 you know stigmata 2201 01:23:08,310 --> 01:23:03,679 as 2202 01:23:10,070 --> 01:23:08,320 scent of roses 2203 01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:10,080 have you encountered any sort of 2204 01:23:16,709 --> 01:23:12,800 research that would kind of a leg up on 2205 01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:16,719 why that is absolutely i mean so 2206 01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:18,719 there's this concept in olfactory 2207 01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:20,560 research that is called hedonics which 2208 01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:22,480 is the idea that the the associated 2209 01:23:27,270 --> 01:23:24,960 feeling or sensation with a sense so 2210 01:23:28,870 --> 01:23:27,280 garbage evokes revulsion 2211 01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:28,880 unless you're a garbage man and it 2212 01:23:33,030 --> 01:23:30,560 invokes you know this cha-ching the 2213 01:23:34,790 --> 01:23:33,040 scent of money bacon invokes hunger 2214 01:23:38,310 --> 01:23:34,800 unless you're a vegan in which case it 2215 01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:38,320 you know evokes um revulsion again so 2216 01:23:41,189 --> 01:23:39,600 it's interesting to see how the 2217 01:23:42,629 --> 01:23:41,199 disposition of certain entities 2218 01:23:44,870 --> 01:23:42,639 correspond 2219 01:23:47,350 --> 01:23:44,880 with these hedonic associations 2220 01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:47,360 so to that end you do find like they're 2221 01:23:51,189 --> 01:23:49,360 like literally less than 2222 01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:51,199 two cases i ever found where sasquatch 2223 01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:53,440 smells pleasant um there are plenty of 2224 01:23:58,310 --> 01:23:56,560 cases where contactees especially of the 2225 01:24:01,350 --> 01:23:58,320 orfeo angelucci 2226 01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:01,360 and adamski i know that's not really 2227 01:24:04,790 --> 01:24:03,600 germaine but it kind of is variety tend 2228 01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:04,800 to say that you know these space 2229 01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:06,480 brothers that they contacted smelled 2230 01:24:10,550 --> 01:24:08,400 wonderfully so again you see these 2231 01:24:12,310 --> 01:24:10,560 correspondences where pleasant entities 2232 01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:12,320 tend to smell pleasant 2233 01:24:17,189 --> 01:24:14,400 one of the most prevalent cases that i 2234 01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:17,199 found was a recently canonized uh ver uh 2235 01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:19,600 expression of the uh virgin mary blessed 2236 01:24:23,350 --> 01:24:21,040 virgin mary uh that was just recently 2237 01:24:26,470 --> 01:24:23,360 canonized um and authenticated by the 2238 01:24:29,830 --> 01:24:26,480 holy see in may 2008 which was um our 2239 01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:29,840 lady of laos l-a-u-s um a region in 2240 01:24:32,709 --> 01:24:30,960 france 2241 01:24:34,550 --> 01:24:32,719 it doesn't get a lot of publicity 2242 01:24:35,830 --> 01:24:34,560 because most of the literature on it is 2243 01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:35,840 in french 2244 01:24:39,669 --> 01:24:37,120 but there was a 2245 01:24:41,910 --> 01:24:39,679 young girl who in 1664 claimed to have 2246 01:24:43,110 --> 01:24:41,920 met the virgin mary and she was told to 2247 01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:43,120 go to 2248 01:24:46,790 --> 01:24:45,280 the town of laos and 2249 01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:46,800 find the chapel from which a sweet 2250 01:24:51,189 --> 01:24:48,960 perfume came and it was the odor of 2251 01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:51,199 roses and flowers and it was documented 2252 01:24:54,709 --> 01:24:53,040 by uh people of the time 2253 01:24:56,870 --> 01:24:54,719 to the extent that like you know people 2254 01:24:59,590 --> 01:24:56,880 were encouraged to you know build 2255 01:25:01,270 --> 01:24:59,600 sculptures and and and and to this day 2256 01:25:04,229 --> 01:25:01,280 people are discouraged from bringing 2257 01:25:06,070 --> 01:25:04,239 flowers into the actual um side of the 2258 01:25:08,950 --> 01:25:06,080 church because they're afraid that that 2259 01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:08,960 will conflict or or make people 2260 01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:11,040 misidentify the fragrance of the flowers 2261 01:25:13,270 --> 01:25:12,400 with the fragrance of the blessed virgin 2262 01:25:15,990 --> 01:25:13,280 mary 2263 01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:16,000 um so you find these pleasant scents 2264 01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:18,480 in almost every bvm encounter blessed 2265 01:25:22,149 --> 01:25:20,320 virgin mary encounter 2266 01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:22,159 and you find them in a lot of 2267 01:25:26,149 --> 01:25:23,760 feminine ghost encounters now what i 2268 01:25:27,430 --> 01:25:26,159 find interesting personally um is the 2269 01:25:28,790 --> 01:25:27,440 fact that 2270 01:25:30,070 --> 01:25:28,800 again this idea of hedonics and this 2271 01:25:33,590 --> 01:25:30,080 idea of associations and society of 2272 01:25:35,590 --> 01:25:33,600 smell like really sort of deceiving us 2273 01:25:38,070 --> 01:25:35,600 and if you are in an abandoned hotel and 2274 01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:38,080 you smell perfume you say oh it was a 2275 01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:39,520 nice lady 2276 01:25:43,910 --> 01:25:41,040 if you're an abandoned hotel and you 2277 01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:43,920 smell a cigar you say oh it was a man 2278 01:25:48,390 --> 01:25:47,040 but women of ages past smoke just as 2279 01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:48,400 much much as men 2280 01:25:52,709 --> 01:25:50,960 and men of ages past have have used 2281 01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:52,719 cologne just as much as women have used 2282 01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:54,400 perfume so it's interesting i think it 2283 01:25:57,189 --> 01:25:55,920 says a lot about like what we bring to 2284 01:25:59,590 --> 01:25:57,199 the dance 2285 01:26:01,430 --> 01:25:59,600 to quote greg bishop on this um what we 2286 01:26:03,910 --> 01:26:01,440 bring to the dance in terms of our 2287 01:26:05,990 --> 01:26:03,920 experiences to these sort of magonian 2288 01:26:07,110 --> 01:26:06,000 phenomena 2289 01:26:08,550 --> 01:26:07,120 that's true 2290 01:26:09,590 --> 01:26:08,560 and it it 2291 01:26:11,590 --> 01:26:09,600 it goes 2292 01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:11,600 right back into that whole idea of how 2293 01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:13,679 smells can can subtly or blatantly 2294 01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:14,800 influence 2295 01:26:19,750 --> 01:26:17,760 um how we respond or how we react to a 2296 01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:19,760 particular event 2297 01:26:24,870 --> 01:26:22,000 one one element that i've always been 2298 01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:27,910 the tom robbins book jitterbug perfume 2299 01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:29,840 where uh you know it's a fictional book 2300 01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:31,600 obviously a novel but 2301 01:26:37,590 --> 01:26:35,360 um it's all about pan uh trying to 2302 01:26:39,910 --> 01:26:37,600 stop from disappearing from reality he's 2303 01:26:42,470 --> 01:26:39,920 being forgotten 2304 01:26:44,870 --> 01:26:42,480 he's becoming passe 2305 01:26:48,229 --> 01:26:44,880 and a perfumer 2306 01:26:51,430 --> 01:26:48,239 or i'm not sure what that term is but 2307 01:26:53,590 --> 01:26:51,440 this woman if i remember correctly uh 2308 01:26:55,189 --> 01:26:53,600 figures out that um 2309 01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:55,199 that pan 2310 01:26:59,750 --> 01:26:58,159 his his scent is actually a fix a 2311 01:27:02,310 --> 01:26:59,760 fixative 2312 01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:02,320 that will um help a particular 2313 01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:05,840 combination of scents last longer like 2314 01:27:12,070 --> 01:27:08,560 for hundreds of years 2315 01:27:14,470 --> 01:27:12,080 sperm whale puke or amorgis was used as 2316 01:27:15,270 --> 01:27:14,480 a as a fixative 2317 01:27:20,229 --> 01:27:15,280 to 2318 01:27:22,870 --> 01:27:20,239 smells for for perfume and it's a it's a 2319 01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:22,880 really fascinating book just as a novel 2320 01:27:28,310 --> 01:27:26,560 but but the whole idea of of uh 2321 01:27:30,950 --> 01:27:28,320 you know a 2322 01:27:32,950 --> 01:27:30,960 amberjs or some sort of fixative in a in 2323 01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:32,960 a combination of smells that would would 2324 01:27:37,270 --> 01:27:35,199 keep them combined uh and correct me if 2325 01:27:39,910 --> 01:27:37,280 i'm wrong josh if i got this right 2326 01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:39,920 but uh that whole concept to me is is 2327 01:27:44,229 --> 01:27:41,679 very intriguing and 2328 01:27:45,430 --> 01:27:44,239 uh the whole idea that 2329 01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:45,440 you know for the 2330 01:27:47,910 --> 01:27:46,800 for the sake of those who haven't read 2331 01:27:49,189 --> 01:27:47,920 the book 2332 01:27:54,149 --> 01:27:49,199 that 2333 01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:54,159 pan which is you know kind of a fairly 2334 01:27:58,550 --> 01:27:56,639 neither positive or negative 2335 01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:58,560 generally with a negative connotation 2336 01:28:01,430 --> 01:27:59,360 should 2337 01:28:03,910 --> 01:28:01,440 uh have this 2338 01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:03,920 it's a tom robbins book called jitter 2339 01:28:07,669 --> 01:28:05,360 perfume 2340 01:28:09,510 --> 01:28:07,679 and uh it talks about pan disappearing 2341 01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:09,520 from the modern world 2342 01:28:16,790 --> 01:28:12,880 and uh uh a perfumer uh finding out that 2343 01:28:19,189 --> 01:28:16,800 his scent actually is a fixative for uh 2344 01:28:20,310 --> 01:28:19,199 combining uh pleasant sense into a 2345 01:28:23,430 --> 01:28:20,320 perfume 2346 01:28:25,590 --> 01:28:23,440 similar to the way ambergis was used 2347 01:28:29,110 --> 01:28:25,600 sperm whale puke was used for 2348 01:28:31,910 --> 01:28:29,120 generations to as a fixative for perfume 2349 01:28:34,070 --> 01:28:31,920 the whole idea of of combining scents 2350 01:28:35,590 --> 01:28:34,080 and then allowing them to last as a 2351 01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:35,600 combination 2352 01:28:39,750 --> 01:28:36,719 uh 2353 01:28:41,430 --> 01:28:39,760 with the rut smell of pan is very 2354 01:28:43,990 --> 01:28:41,440 intriguing to me 2355 01:28:45,110 --> 01:28:44,000 and uh it does lead me on to a couple of 2356 01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:45,120 other 2357 01:28:49,510 --> 01:28:46,560 subjects but uh 2358 01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:49,520 are you familiar with how perfumes are 2359 01:28:52,550 --> 01:28:50,400 made 2360 01:28:55,430 --> 01:28:52,560 the fact that perfumes like i've heard 2361 01:28:57,830 --> 01:28:55,440 were devised initially by the french 2362 01:29:00,149 --> 01:28:57,840 to hide the smell of body odor because 2363 01:29:01,990 --> 01:29:00,159 it was considered unhealthy to bathe and 2364 01:29:02,870 --> 01:29:02,000 shower in the middle ages and perfume 2365 01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:02,880 was a 2366 01:29:06,870 --> 01:29:04,480 an obvious way 2367 01:29:09,510 --> 01:29:06,880 to get around the 2368 01:29:10,870 --> 01:29:09,520 stink of unwashed human bodies 2369 01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:10,880 yeah it's really interesting that you 2370 01:29:13,910 --> 01:29:11,840 mentioned that i'm looking at a book on 2371 01:29:16,390 --> 01:29:13,920 my shelf called scent 2372 01:29:19,189 --> 01:29:16,400 it was translated from french it's a 2373 01:29:21,189 --> 01:29:19,199 it's a work by a nick legere 2374 01:29:22,709 --> 01:29:21,199 which is a wonderful wonderful book it's 2375 01:29:23,830 --> 01:29:22,719 in some ways it's partly the book that i 2376 01:29:26,070 --> 01:29:23,840 want to write because a lot of it 2377 01:29:27,350 --> 01:29:26,080 interfaces with how synthetic occult 2378 01:29:28,629 --> 01:29:27,360 mashed together 2379 01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:28,639 but on one of the things that they talk 2380 01:29:31,350 --> 01:29:29,520 about 2381 01:29:33,590 --> 01:29:31,360 you know are the way that fixatives have 2382 01:29:36,310 --> 01:29:33,600 been utilized for example civet the 2383 01:29:38,950 --> 01:29:36,320 scent glands from civic cats i believe 2384 01:29:41,270 --> 01:29:38,960 has been used to great effect and 2385 01:29:42,390 --> 01:29:41,280 perfumes uh similarly you know people 2386 01:29:44,629 --> 01:29:42,400 don't want to realize a lot of their 2387 01:29:47,270 --> 01:29:44,639 artificial vanilla flavors contain 2388 01:29:49,430 --> 01:29:47,280 beaver anal scent gland 2389 01:29:50,470 --> 01:29:49,440 excretions as well 2390 01:29:53,590 --> 01:29:50,480 nice 2391 01:29:54,790 --> 01:29:53,600 but um yeah so it's so there was this 2392 01:29:56,070 --> 01:29:54,800 this 2393 01:29:58,070 --> 01:29:56,080 we look at a 2394 01:30:01,910 --> 01:29:58,080 we look upon it as sort of uh dunder 2395 01:30:03,750 --> 01:30:01,920 headed nowadays um but in the um in the 2396 01:30:06,550 --> 01:30:03,760 1700s people came up with this idea of 2397 01:30:09,030 --> 01:30:06,560 miasma theory the idea that bad smells 2398 01:30:10,629 --> 01:30:09,040 could actually cause actual afflictions 2399 01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:10,639 to occur 2400 01:30:13,350 --> 01:30:11,760 which if you look at something like 2401 01:30:14,950 --> 01:30:13,360 hydrogen sulfide that actually has real 2402 01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:14,960 repercussions it's not too far off the 2403 01:30:19,430 --> 01:30:16,960 mark i suppose but like the actual smell 2404 01:30:21,590 --> 01:30:19,440 itself isn't what 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you're 2517 01:35:22,790 --> 01:35:10,260 listening to the peercast 2518 01:35:24,790 --> 01:35:22,800 [Music] 2519 01:35:25,750 --> 01:35:24,800 we continue chris o'brien by the way is 2520 01:35:28,709 --> 01:35:25,760 having 2521 01:35:31,110 --> 01:35:28,719 his usual difficulties with skype so 2522 01:35:33,350 --> 01:35:31,120 if he seems to be a little distorted 2523 01:35:35,910 --> 01:35:33,360 it's not the logic because his logic is 2524 01:35:37,430 --> 01:35:35,920 never distorted it is the horrible skype 2525 01:35:40,550 --> 01:35:37,440 connection that we have to continue to 2526 01:35:41,750 --> 01:35:40,560 put up with joshua cutchen is here and 2527 01:35:44,709 --> 01:35:41,760 we're looking 2528 01:35:47,830 --> 01:35:44,719 at strange sense so let me ask you here 2529 01:35:51,669 --> 01:35:47,840 since we focus so much on nasty odors 2530 01:35:52,950 --> 01:35:51,679 do pleasant odors have a curative effect 2531 01:35:54,149 --> 01:35:52,960 well not in a 2532 01:35:56,390 --> 01:35:54,159 not in a uh 2533 01:35:58,470 --> 01:35:56,400 you know 20th century outlook i mean 2534 01:36:01,830 --> 01:35:58,480 certainly they have a um they can they 2535 01:36:02,709 --> 01:36:01,840 can have a relaxing effect but 2536 01:36:05,189 --> 01:36:02,719 there 2537 01:36:06,709 --> 01:36:05,199 is certainly the implication that 2538 01:36:07,990 --> 01:36:06,719 well again as we've been talking about 2539 01:36:10,870 --> 01:36:08,000 you know throughout the course of the 2540 01:36:13,030 --> 01:36:10,880 conversation the possibility that 2541 01:36:15,750 --> 01:36:13,040 certain odors might be used for 2542 01:36:18,470 --> 01:36:15,760 deceptive purposes um you know as far as 2543 01:36:20,310 --> 01:36:18,480 pleasant odors go i'm reminded of 2544 01:36:22,070 --> 01:36:20,320 whitley strieber's encounter with the 2545 01:36:24,790 --> 01:36:22,080 visitors where he asked to smell them to 2546 01:36:27,669 --> 01:36:24,800 sort of reinforce uh his 2547 01:36:29,750 --> 01:36:27,679 his objective reality of their existence 2548 01:36:31,990 --> 01:36:29,760 and they smelled like cinnamon but 2549 01:36:33,830 --> 01:36:32,000 what's interesting to me is that over 2550 01:36:35,590 --> 01:36:33,840 time he has come to reevaluate that 2551 01:36:36,950 --> 01:36:35,600 particular smell and look i'm a whitley 2552 01:36:38,629 --> 01:36:36,960 streeper apologist like i think 2553 01:36:40,229 --> 01:36:38,639 something happened to the guy i think 2554 01:36:41,350 --> 01:36:40,239 he's expressing that to the best of his 2555 01:36:43,510 --> 01:36:41,360 abilities i know that might not be a 2556 01:36:44,790 --> 01:36:43,520 popular view on the pericast but that's 2557 01:36:45,750 --> 01:36:44,800 sort of the way sort of where i come at 2558 01:36:46,629 --> 01:36:45,760 it from 2559 01:36:48,709 --> 01:36:46,639 um 2560 01:36:50,790 --> 01:36:48,719 but it is troubling that he has 2561 01:36:52,709 --> 01:36:50,800 reevaluated the smell because over time 2562 01:36:54,229 --> 01:36:52,719 it's gone from cinnamon 2563 01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:54,239 to cheese 2564 01:36:59,030 --> 01:36:56,560 to like i think maybe feet i'm not not 2565 01:37:01,430 --> 01:36:59,040 recalling correctly um but you know a 2566 01:37:03,189 --> 01:37:01,440 sort of decaying dance smell and if you 2567 01:37:05,910 --> 01:37:03,199 look at anybody who studies since 2568 01:37:07,750 --> 01:37:05,920 psychology olfactory psychology they 2569 01:37:10,229 --> 01:37:07,760 will say time and again that that 2570 01:37:11,750 --> 01:37:10,239 doesn't happen you smell something you 2571 01:37:13,990 --> 01:37:11,760 know what that smells like you don't 2572 01:37:15,030 --> 01:37:14,000 reevaluate it that's your smell 2573 01:37:17,030 --> 01:37:15,040 um 2574 01:37:18,950 --> 01:37:17,040 which you know but but at the same time 2575 01:37:21,109 --> 01:37:18,960 you do wind up we do run into other 2576 01:37:23,270 --> 01:37:21,119 people who have encountered this sort of 2577 01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:23,280 cinnamon-esque smell with certain 2578 01:37:26,629 --> 01:37:25,040 entities 2579 01:37:29,590 --> 01:37:26,639 cinnamon-esque 2580 01:37:32,149 --> 01:37:30,870 i like them 2581 01:37:35,430 --> 01:37:32,159 yeah they too 2582 01:37:37,510 --> 01:37:35,440 well another thing too that um 2583 01:37:39,750 --> 01:37:37,520 most people probably don't really have 2584 01:37:43,830 --> 01:37:39,760 much knowledge about is 2585 01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:43,840 in the occult uh certain smells are used 2586 01:37:46,830 --> 01:37:45,040 actually 2587 01:37:50,390 --> 01:37:46,840 in a way 2588 01:37:53,990 --> 01:37:50,400 uh incense is used to crown a new head 2589 01:37:55,350 --> 01:37:54,000 of state a new king or queen in england 2590 01:37:58,229 --> 01:37:55,360 as uh 2591 01:37:59,430 --> 01:37:58,239 the same scent is used to um 2592 01:38:02,149 --> 01:37:59,440 i'm not sure what you call it when you 2593 01:38:05,109 --> 01:38:02,159 make a new pope a crown a new pope um 2594 01:38:06,709 --> 01:38:05,119 abermellon which is a form of 2595 01:38:08,790 --> 01:38:06,719 incense from the middle east which is a 2596 01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:08,800 combination of frankincense 2597 01:38:12,709 --> 01:38:10,960 myrrh 2598 01:38:15,270 --> 01:38:12,719 not sure there's two or three other 2599 01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:15,280 ingredients but i find it very curious 2600 01:38:18,709 --> 01:38:17,440 that you should have a very similar if 2601 01:38:20,629 --> 01:38:18,719 not the same 2602 01:38:23,830 --> 01:38:20,639 scent that's used in a ritual occult 2603 01:38:24,790 --> 01:38:23,840 purpose to anoint a new head of uh you 2604 01:38:26,870 --> 01:38:24,800 know a 2605 01:38:29,189 --> 01:38:26,880 church a school a 2606 01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:29,199 kingdom or whatever uh have you looked 2607 01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:32,880 into the occult and how smells are 2608 01:38:36,790 --> 01:38:35,199 actually utilized in occult practices 2609 01:38:38,390 --> 01:38:36,800 well i think you sort of have to um 2610 01:38:40,629 --> 01:38:38,400 something that something that i'm trying 2611 01:38:42,870 --> 01:38:40,639 to encourage more is this 2612 01:38:44,390 --> 01:38:42,880 is this cross-pollination of people who 2613 01:38:45,510 --> 01:38:44,400 look into 2614 01:38:47,910 --> 01:38:45,520 what are traditionally considered 2615 01:38:50,149 --> 01:38:47,920 materialist supernatural issues like 2616 01:38:51,430 --> 01:38:50,159 structured craft ufos and flesh and 2617 01:38:53,109 --> 01:38:51,440 blood bigfoot 2618 01:38:55,109 --> 01:38:53,119 and trying to get those people to you 2619 01:38:56,310 --> 01:38:55,119 know play ball with the occult people 2620 01:38:57,750 --> 01:38:56,320 because i think they're both onto 2621 01:38:59,350 --> 01:38:57,760 something that they could mutually 2622 01:39:01,270 --> 01:38:59,360 benefit from 2623 01:39:04,229 --> 01:39:01,280 what's interesting is that you'll find 2624 01:39:06,310 --> 01:39:04,239 believe it or not that sulfur 2625 01:39:08,229 --> 01:39:06,320 can not only conjure up demons but can 2626 01:39:10,629 --> 01:39:08,239 also be used 2627 01:39:12,390 --> 01:39:10,639 to bind demons you can believe that at 2628 01:39:14,629 --> 01:39:12,400 all um 2629 01:39:16,070 --> 01:39:14,639 you know incense sort of 2630 01:39:18,070 --> 01:39:16,080 so this is sort of this is sort of the 2631 01:39:19,750 --> 01:39:18,080 uh the intersection with my last book a 2632 01:39:22,149 --> 01:39:19,760 trojan feast is that 2633 01:39:24,470 --> 01:39:22,159 there was this idea that in order to um 2634 01:39:26,149 --> 01:39:24,480 transmit food to the other 2635 01:39:27,910 --> 01:39:26,159 you had to burn it because in burning 2636 01:39:29,590 --> 01:39:27,920 you transmitted the essence of the food 2637 01:39:30,950 --> 01:39:29,600 into smoke which would then rise to the 2638 01:39:33,669 --> 01:39:30,960 heavens and do its own thing which is a 2639 01:39:35,189 --> 01:39:33,679 lot of parallels with the celtic concept 2640 01:39:37,109 --> 01:39:35,199 of poison the idea that the essence of 2641 01:39:38,629 --> 01:39:37,119 the food could be taken by 2642 01:39:42,229 --> 01:39:38,639 the fairy folk 2643 01:39:43,750 --> 01:39:42,239 but beyond that you also find that um 2644 01:39:46,070 --> 01:39:43,760 this is sort of the 2645 01:39:47,830 --> 01:39:46,080 one of the genesees is genesis the 2646 01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:47,840 plural of genesis 2647 01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:50,400 one of the genesees of um 2648 01:39:55,109 --> 01:39:52,560 of using incense in occult practice is 2649 01:39:57,030 --> 01:39:55,119 that it's sort of a a variation on the 2650 01:39:59,669 --> 01:39:57,040 bert offering because instead of you 2651 01:40:01,510 --> 01:39:59,679 know in in instead of combusting flesh 2652 01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:01,520 you're combusting you know essential 2653 01:40:04,629 --> 01:40:03,040 oils and plants 2654 01:40:05,910 --> 01:40:04,639 um and it's all about that sort of set 2655 01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:05,920 and setting sort of thing that you run 2656 01:40:10,390 --> 01:40:07,600 into 2657 01:40:11,990 --> 01:40:10,400 so what you will find is that um 2658 01:40:13,350 --> 01:40:12,000 is that 2659 01:40:15,109 --> 01:40:13,360 certain 2660 01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:15,119 cultures will 2661 01:40:18,709 --> 01:40:16,800 will use for example i believe that 2662 01:40:21,109 --> 01:40:18,719 there's a there's a 2663 01:40:23,270 --> 01:40:21,119 spell of of binding certain demons that 2664 01:40:24,709 --> 01:40:23,280 you have to involve uh putting sulfur 2665 01:40:26,310 --> 01:40:24,719 into a box and then writing the name of 2666 01:40:28,790 --> 01:40:26,320 the demon on the box and then the demon 2667 01:40:31,430 --> 01:40:28,800 is bound to you um but you'll also find 2668 01:40:33,270 --> 01:40:31,440 a was called the curse of chains um they 2669 01:40:35,750 --> 01:40:33,280 would sort of put the name of the entity 2670 01:40:37,990 --> 01:40:35,760 on a scrap of parchment and then uh put 2671 01:40:39,910 --> 01:40:38,000 it and put it in a box with with sulfur 2672 01:40:42,070 --> 01:40:39,920 and some other stuff but you also find 2673 01:40:44,550 --> 01:40:42,080 uh in the american south sulfur amongst 2674 01:40:45,990 --> 01:40:44,560 black slaves um was used to fashion 2675 01:40:48,310 --> 01:40:46,000 witch balls is what they were called 2676 01:40:50,870 --> 01:40:48,320 which were supposedly on these sort of 2677 01:40:53,590 --> 01:40:50,880 balls that were like animal feces and 2678 01:40:54,950 --> 01:40:53,600 human semen and spit and sulfur and fox 2679 01:40:56,229 --> 01:40:54,960 fire and camphor 2680 01:40:58,070 --> 01:40:56,239 not exactly 2681 01:41:00,709 --> 01:40:58,080 something you'd want to smell yeah yeah 2682 01:41:02,310 --> 01:41:00,719 right tasty but supposedly they kept but 2683 01:41:05,350 --> 01:41:02,320 supposedly they kept butches away so i 2684 01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:05,360 mean you'll find um 2685 01:41:09,750 --> 01:41:07,600 you know there are certain 2686 01:41:11,350 --> 01:41:09,760 i believe that was um there was a there 2687 01:41:14,229 --> 01:41:11,360 are certain eastern european beliefs 2688 01:41:15,910 --> 01:41:14,239 that a a jar of urine might keep uh 2689 01:41:17,109 --> 01:41:15,920 sleep paralysis away if you put it under 2690 01:41:20,070 --> 01:41:17,119 your bed 2691 01:41:21,270 --> 01:41:20,080 ironically enough it it it comes to you 2692 01:41:23,350 --> 01:41:21,280 know it's come to the attention of 2693 01:41:25,030 --> 01:41:23,360 modern science that foul smells can be 2694 01:41:26,870 --> 01:41:25,040 registered in sleep and often invoke 2695 01:41:28,870 --> 01:41:26,880 nightmares so that doesn't seem like a 2696 01:41:31,270 --> 01:41:28,880 good course of action but if anybody's 2697 01:41:33,430 --> 01:41:31,280 looking for any practical advice um what 2698 01:41:35,990 --> 01:41:33,440 i've heard um from someone that i really 2699 01:41:37,430 --> 01:41:36,000 admire um chaos magician gordon white 2700 01:41:39,109 --> 01:41:37,440 who's influenced a lot of the way so i 2701 01:41:40,149 --> 01:41:39,119 think be a great guest for the pericast 2702 01:41:42,310 --> 01:41:40,159 at some point 2703 01:41:44,709 --> 01:41:42,320 says that in terms of just in modern day 2704 01:41:46,229 --> 01:41:44,719 day-to-day life frankincense is a great 2705 01:41:47,270 --> 01:41:46,239 way to just clean out the house which 2706 01:41:48,790 --> 01:41:47,280 sort of 2707 01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:48,800 takes back to what you're talking about 2708 01:41:53,109 --> 01:41:50,880 uh chris with the coronation of certain 2709 01:41:55,189 --> 01:41:53,119 popes um i guess coronation again that's 2710 01:41:56,550 --> 01:41:55,199 the right term but the nuclear option 2711 01:41:58,390 --> 01:41:56,560 for anyone looking to cleanse a house 2712 01:42:00,070 --> 01:41:58,400 really isn't sage it's dragon's blood 2713 01:42:01,270 --> 01:42:00,080 which is a specific type of incense as 2714 01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:01,280 well i believe 2715 01:42:06,149 --> 01:42:03,280 well the best way to clean out a house 2716 01:42:08,070 --> 01:42:06,159 is just to burn it down i guess 2717 01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:08,080 or to leave it's it's it's 2718 01:42:12,229 --> 01:42:10,080 in the parking every steinberg world 2719 01:42:14,950 --> 01:42:12,239 yeah well you know you can also get a 2720 01:42:16,950 --> 01:42:14,960 samsung galaxy note 7 2721 01:42:18,709 --> 01:42:16,960 and give it a chance fully charge it and 2722 01:42:20,229 --> 01:42:18,719 maybe it'll burn up 2723 01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:20,239 well there you go that was a plug for 2724 01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:22,880 iphone if i ever heard one i saw a meme 2725 01:42:26,550 --> 01:42:24,560 today that said that uh that ancient 2726 01:42:29,510 --> 01:42:26,560 caveman used to use the samsung galaxy 2727 01:42:31,430 --> 01:42:29,520 to light fires 2728 01:42:32,390 --> 01:42:31,440 it was really easy to do that real hot 2729 01:42:33,830 --> 01:42:32,400 stuff 2730 01:42:35,510 --> 01:42:33,840 one thing that i think that we should 2731 01:42:37,590 --> 01:42:35,520 point out is 2732 01:42:40,550 --> 01:42:37,600 smell incense 2733 01:42:43,030 --> 01:42:40,560 do have a cultural component and 2734 01:42:45,669 --> 01:42:43,040 what may smell bad in one culture could 2735 01:42:48,310 --> 01:42:45,679 possibly not be considered as as as foul 2736 01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:48,320 smelling in another culture number one 2737 01:42:52,629 --> 01:42:51,040 and number two as we have progressed uh 2738 01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:52,639 forward in time 2739 01:42:59,510 --> 01:42:56,080 uh smell has become less and less 2740 01:43:00,950 --> 01:42:59,520 apparent and i think humans have 2741 01:43:03,189 --> 01:43:00,960 in many ways 2742 01:43:05,590 --> 01:43:03,199 more sensitive noses now because of the 2743 01:43:08,390 --> 01:43:05,600 rise of antibacterial soaps and all 2744 01:43:10,229 --> 01:43:08,400 kinds of of perfumes and and 2745 01:43:12,709 --> 01:43:10,239 things that mass smell things that clean 2746 01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:12,719 you i think back in the middle ages when 2747 01:43:17,750 --> 01:43:15,280 people weren't washing when uh you know 2748 01:43:19,910 --> 01:43:17,760 open sewers ran through uh towns cities 2749 01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:19,920 and villages uh when slaughterhouses 2750 01:43:26,550 --> 01:43:20,639 were 2751 01:43:27,910 --> 01:43:26,560 think more used to foul smells as 2752 01:43:29,590 --> 01:43:27,920 opposed to now 2753 01:43:31,830 --> 01:43:29,600 at least in the first world where you 2754 01:43:35,350 --> 01:43:31,840 know in the modern cultures where 2755 01:43:38,149 --> 01:43:35,360 smell tends to or bad smells tend to you 2756 01:43:41,109 --> 01:43:38,159 know be much more apparent i think in 2757 01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:41,119 everybody's everyday life and 2758 01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:42,960 and again i think that we're dealing 2759 01:43:47,910 --> 01:43:45,280 with something that um 2760 01:43:48,629 --> 01:43:47,920 you know there's a lot of 2761 01:43:50,310 --> 01:43:48,639 well 2762 01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:50,320 i think we have a lot of variability 2763 01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:52,560 back in the back in ancient times or 2764 01:43:59,910 --> 01:43:56,480 maybe up to medieval times smells were 2765 01:44:01,910 --> 01:43:59,920 i i think not as um 2766 01:44:03,750 --> 01:44:01,920 you know they just 2767 01:44:06,870 --> 01:44:03,760 they were a part of everyday life uh 2768 01:44:10,390 --> 01:44:09,030 the book is called in case you're 2769 01:44:11,750 --> 01:44:10,400 wondering and 2770 01:44:14,950 --> 01:44:11,760 we've mentioned it a few times the 2771 01:44:16,070 --> 01:44:14,960 brimstone deceit 2772 01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:16,080 whoa 2773 01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:19,600 about the strange odors the malodorous 2774 01:44:24,470 --> 01:44:22,480 entities from another planet 2775 01:44:26,390 --> 01:44:24,480 all sorts of strange things going on 2776 01:44:27,830 --> 01:44:26,400 there it's never strange to tell you 2777 01:44:29,910 --> 01:44:27,840 that we have the powercast plus at 2778 01:44:31,669 --> 01:44:29,920 plus.powercast.com 2779 01:44:35,270 --> 01:44:31,679 we get the commercial free version of 2780 01:44:37,590 --> 01:44:35,280 this show the after the cast podcast 2781 01:44:39,030 --> 01:44:37,600 and all sorts of good stuff none of it 2782 01:44:41,030 --> 01:44:39,040 smells 2783 01:44:42,790 --> 01:44:41,040 it's very fresh and clean 2784 01:44:44,310 --> 01:44:42,800 now the power cast plus is a real 2785 01:44:46,629 --> 01:44:44,320 special thing 2786 01:44:48,950 --> 01:44:46,639 because of the fact that it can take us 2787 01:44:51,430 --> 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2862 01:48:03,510 --> 01:47:59,920 welcome back to the paracast the gold 2863 01:48:04,790 --> 01:48:03,520 standard of paranormal radio 2864 01:48:08,150 --> 01:48:04,800 and now 2865 01:48:11,910 --> 01:48:08,160 here's gene steinberg 2866 01:48:16,709 --> 01:48:14,709 i don't like sushi so to me all sushi is 2867 01:48:19,270 --> 01:48:16,719 bad and now of course any sponsor who 2868 01:48:21,430 --> 01:48:19,280 wants to sell sushi on the show 2869 01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:21,440 well you know what if you do i'll learn 2870 01:48:25,669 --> 01:48:23,520 to like it hey sushi was great pre 2871 01:48:27,350 --> 01:48:25,679 fukushima and now 2872 01:48:29,750 --> 01:48:27,360 i've avoided that 2873 01:48:31,430 --> 01:48:29,760 yeah i can't have sushi anymore my 2874 01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:31,440 favorite cuisine 2875 01:48:35,430 --> 01:48:33,360 i got to get one of those special food 2876 01:48:38,550 --> 01:48:35,440 grade geiger counters to be able to go 2877 01:48:40,390 --> 01:48:38,560 by by uh sushi you know grade fish 2878 01:48:42,790 --> 01:48:40,400 unfortunately 2879 01:48:45,350 --> 01:48:42,800 very very very 2880 01:48:47,189 --> 01:48:45,360 disturbing 2881 01:48:48,870 --> 01:48:47,199 speaking of sushi i think that there 2882 01:48:50,950 --> 01:48:48,880 should be um 2883 01:48:53,109 --> 01:48:50,960 are we back on here gene 2884 01:48:55,109 --> 01:48:53,119 we've been back on yes 2885 01:48:57,510 --> 01:48:55,119 okay 2886 01:49:00,709 --> 01:48:57,520 i think dating sites should have 2887 01:49:02,550 --> 01:49:00,719 a way to somehow capture a particular 2888 01:49:04,229 --> 01:49:02,560 perspective uh 2889 01:49:08,070 --> 01:49:04,239 somehow capture their their natural 2890 01:49:09,830 --> 01:49:08,080 scent and uh you know i found that um 2891 01:49:13,189 --> 01:49:09,840 with some of the limited research i've 2892 01:49:15,590 --> 01:49:13,199 done with with smell and and odors 2893 01:49:18,310 --> 01:49:15,600 particular people tend to be attracted 2894 01:49:21,189 --> 01:49:18,320 to particular sets of pheromones emitted 2895 01:49:23,590 --> 01:49:21,199 by the opposite sex so what may turn up 2896 01:49:25,590 --> 01:49:23,600 one woman about a man is totally 2897 01:49:27,910 --> 01:49:25,600 disgusting to another woman and vice 2898 01:49:30,709 --> 01:49:27,920 versa what may turn on a guy about a 2899 01:49:32,629 --> 01:49:30,719 particular woman uh would be um 2900 01:49:33,350 --> 01:49:32,639 unattractive to somebody else so you 2901 01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:33,360 know 2902 01:49:37,270 --> 01:49:35,520 a lot of subjective uh 2903 01:49:39,109 --> 01:49:37,280 qualities here when when you're dealing 2904 01:49:41,109 --> 01:49:39,119 with something like scent which is 2905 01:49:42,790 --> 01:49:41,119 almost a personal thing when when you 2906 01:49:44,870 --> 01:49:42,800 get into the nuances 2907 01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:44,880 um what does your girlfriend smell like 2908 01:49:48,709 --> 01:49:46,560 josh 2909 01:49:49,510 --> 01:49:48,719 you know you you quasijest but there are 2910 01:49:52,149 --> 01:49:49,520 um 2911 01:49:54,790 --> 01:49:52,159 certain websites that apparently collect 2912 01:49:56,790 --> 01:49:54,800 the laundry of people and then ship them 2913 01:49:59,030 --> 01:49:56,800 to prospective suitors actually that 2914 01:50:00,709 --> 01:49:59,040 happened sort of evolved out well but 2915 01:50:03,109 --> 01:50:00,719 but this isn't like basically like you 2916 01:50:04,870 --> 01:50:03,119 know that's a great idea because you got 2917 01:50:07,830 --> 01:50:04,880 pheromonal activity at play and all that 2918 01:50:10,629 --> 01:50:07,840 sort of thing um you know um 2919 01:50:12,310 --> 01:50:10,639 my my wife smells like 2920 01:50:14,310 --> 01:50:12,320 perfume i guess 2921 01:50:16,629 --> 01:50:14,320 this is going to sound sort of freshly 2922 01:50:18,229 --> 01:50:16,639 scrubbed or something no no this is this 2923 01:50:19,910 --> 01:50:18,239 is going to sound this is going to sound 2924 01:50:20,870 --> 01:50:19,920 worse than it is but my wife smells like 2925 01:50:23,109 --> 01:50:20,880 a bed 2926 01:50:24,709 --> 01:50:23,119 not like in that sort of like 2927 01:50:27,189 --> 01:50:24,719 bed but like you know sort of that like 2928 01:50:29,270 --> 01:50:27,199 comfy i'm relaxed sort of like let's lay 2929 01:50:30,149 --> 01:50:29,280 down and just close our eyes and feel 2930 01:50:33,350 --> 01:50:30,159 safe 2931 01:50:35,430 --> 01:50:33,360 clean sheets yeah exactly exactly i have 2932 01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:35,440 an investigator friend uh who i've known 2933 01:50:42,950 --> 01:50:39,040 for many years who was in charge of the 2934 01:50:46,550 --> 01:50:42,960 telephone uh room at victoria's secret 2935 01:50:49,030 --> 01:50:46,560 and for many years she ran a a bank of 2936 01:50:51,830 --> 01:50:49,040 you know people answering the phone 2937 01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:51,840 for that particular company 2938 01:50:55,350 --> 01:50:53,440 sniffers 2939 01:50:57,189 --> 01:50:55,360 when they would get returns from 2940 01:50:59,030 --> 01:50:57,199 customers uh 2941 01:51:00,550 --> 01:50:59,040 they would have actually 2942 01:51:03,750 --> 01:51:00,560 teams of people 2943 01:51:06,229 --> 01:51:03,760 that their job was to sniff panties to 2944 01:51:09,669 --> 01:51:06,239 make sure that they had not been been 2945 01:51:11,270 --> 01:51:09,679 worn and uh returned after 2946 01:51:13,270 --> 01:51:11,280 a particular 2947 01:51:14,550 --> 01:51:13,280 night out i'm not sure right 2948 01:51:16,709 --> 01:51:14,560 we're getting into 2949 01:51:18,229 --> 01:51:16,719 some sketchy territory here in terms of 2950 01:51:20,950 --> 01:51:18,239 the fcc but 2951 01:51:22,070 --> 01:51:20,960 but could you imagine that particular 2952 01:51:23,910 --> 01:51:22,080 job 2953 01:51:26,470 --> 01:51:23,920 well what do you do frank 2954 01:51:28,790 --> 01:51:26,480 well i smell pennies uh at the return 2955 01:51:30,709 --> 01:51:28,800 desk at uh victoria's secret i bet 2956 01:51:32,470 --> 01:51:30,719 there's a very specific demographic that 2957 01:51:33,350 --> 01:51:32,480 is outlined up out the door for that i 2958 01:51:35,270 --> 01:51:33,360 mean you know 2959 01:51:37,990 --> 01:51:35,280 you look at again this is as far as i'll 2960 01:51:39,830 --> 01:51:38,000 take this because again the fcc but um 2961 01:51:42,550 --> 01:51:39,840 there are apparently vending machines in 2962 01:51:45,109 --> 01:51:42,560 japan that sell used underwear that's 2963 01:51:47,030 --> 01:51:45,119 what i've heard yeah there are i i i 2964 01:51:49,990 --> 01:51:47,040 think we probably saw the same article 2965 01:51:54,950 --> 01:51:52,870 we're getting into some uh kind of uh 2966 01:51:56,229 --> 01:51:54,960 blue territory yeah 2967 01:51:57,830 --> 01:51:56,239 yeah uh 2968 01:51:59,990 --> 01:51:57,840 it's um we're getting into kind of 2969 01:52:03,109 --> 01:52:00,000 sketchy territory here but 2970 01:52:06,629 --> 01:52:03,119 i think my point is that um people are 2971 01:52:09,589 --> 01:52:06,639 attracted to particular sense particular 2972 01:52:11,189 --> 01:52:09,599 smells and repelled by others 2973 01:52:13,109 --> 01:52:11,199 however when you get into the realm of 2974 01:52:14,950 --> 01:52:13,119 the paranormal i think you can really 2975 01:52:17,030 --> 01:52:14,960 break it down into 2976 01:52:20,390 --> 01:52:17,040 you know most people the vast majority 2977 01:52:24,310 --> 01:52:20,400 of people would find a skunk ape uh 2978 01:52:26,310 --> 01:52:24,320 not a pleasant olefactory experience uh 2979 01:52:28,310 --> 01:52:26,320 for lack of a better term 2980 01:52:29,669 --> 01:52:28,320 um or 2981 01:52:30,870 --> 01:52:29,679 go ahead 2982 01:52:32,310 --> 01:52:30,880 oh i was going to say you know it's 2983 01:52:35,030 --> 01:52:32,320 interesting because you had mentioned 2984 01:52:35,990 --> 01:52:35,040 before the break um about just the 2985 01:52:43,109 --> 01:52:36,000 the 2986 01:52:46,470 --> 01:52:43,119 military-industrial complex has not been 2987 01:52:47,510 --> 01:52:46,480 able to completely codify a stink bomb 2988 01:52:49,430 --> 01:52:47,520 there have been some attempts at this 2989 01:52:51,270 --> 01:52:49,440 but certain cultures like you know 2990 01:52:52,870 --> 01:52:51,280 certain cultures if you look at any 2991 01:52:54,709 --> 01:52:52,880 cultures food like 2992 01:52:57,109 --> 01:52:54,719 certain cultures think things are 2993 01:52:58,310 --> 01:52:57,119 smellier than others um 2994 01:53:00,070 --> 01:52:58,320 uh what's really interesting is that 2995 01:53:01,830 --> 01:53:00,080 like a lot of these tendencies seem to 2996 01:53:04,149 --> 01:53:01,840 be learned um 2997 01:53:06,709 --> 01:53:04,159 you know uh in terms of as i mentioned 2998 01:53:08,229 --> 01:53:06,719 earlier like the garbage man thinks that 2999 01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:08,239 garbage smells like work we think it 3000 01:53:12,550 --> 01:53:10,960 smells like trash um a vegan might think 3001 01:53:13,990 --> 01:53:12,560 that bacon smells like death i think it 3002 01:53:16,229 --> 01:53:14,000 smells awesome 3003 01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:16,239 because i love bacon um 3004 01:53:19,589 --> 01:53:17,920 but uh so a lot of these things are 3005 01:53:21,189 --> 01:53:19,599 learned but if there is one smell and 3006 01:53:23,510 --> 01:53:21,199 this is what i keep coming back to with 3007 01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:23,520 like the whole paranormal angle if there 3008 01:53:27,589 --> 01:53:25,440 is one smell that 3009 01:53:29,750 --> 01:53:27,599 seems to be universal 3010 01:53:31,030 --> 01:53:29,760 in terms of aversion in terms of like 3011 01:53:32,390 --> 01:53:31,040 realizing that 3012 01:53:33,990 --> 01:53:32,400 this is something i should get away from 3013 01:53:36,310 --> 01:53:34,000 it's that's it's that sulfurous smell 3014 01:53:38,790 --> 01:53:36,320 it's that that a hydrogen sulfide that 3015 01:53:40,310 --> 01:53:38,800 sulfur dioxide smell 3016 01:53:41,510 --> 01:53:40,320 um that sort of alerts us to the fact 3017 01:53:43,109 --> 01:53:41,520 that this is dangerous this is something 3018 01:53:44,629 --> 01:53:43,119 that we shouldn't be around so if if 3019 01:53:46,310 --> 01:53:44,639 there is 3020 01:53:48,070 --> 01:53:46,320 a conscious component to the way that 3021 01:53:50,470 --> 01:53:48,080 these particular phenomena smell in 3022 01:53:51,750 --> 01:53:50,480 terms of them selecting a scent 3023 01:53:52,870 --> 01:53:51,760 it seems like they want to be noticed 3024 01:53:56,229 --> 01:53:52,880 you know 3025 01:53:57,510 --> 01:53:56,239 well sorry i didn't mean to completely 3026 01:53:59,510 --> 01:53:57,520 derail you something 3027 01:54:02,310 --> 01:53:59,520 well no you're not just reminding me 3028 01:54:05,350 --> 01:54:02,320 that i i have a problem with my well 3029 01:54:08,870 --> 01:54:05,360 and if i don't use a particular sink or 3030 01:54:11,430 --> 01:54:08,880 or a faucet uh during the summer 3031 01:54:14,790 --> 01:54:11,440 for you know three or four days uh when 3032 01:54:16,870 --> 01:54:14,800 i turn it on i'm i'm assaulted with uh 3033 01:54:19,270 --> 01:54:16,880 kind of a sulfuric smell from the water 3034 01:54:20,229 --> 01:54:19,280 and it's very unpleasant and 3035 01:54:30,870 --> 01:54:20,239 i 3036 01:54:35,589 --> 01:54:30,880 you know 3037 01:54:37,350 --> 01:54:35,599 ingrained learned uh programmed into my 3038 01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:37,360 my subconscious 3039 01:54:41,990 --> 01:54:40,080 but i do i do recoil from that smell 3040 01:54:43,030 --> 01:54:42,000 that that kind of sulfuric 3041 01:54:45,109 --> 01:54:43,040 yeah 3042 01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:45,119 i i get it you know my my my wife gets 3043 01:54:51,830 --> 01:54:47,119 some stuff the woman and bring her over 3044 01:54:56,149 --> 01:54:53,430 my wife is from florida and i feel like 3045 01:54:57,270 --> 01:54:56,159 florida as a state has 3046 01:54:58,790 --> 01:54:57,280 um 3047 01:55:01,830 --> 01:54:58,800 has you know 3048 01:55:04,229 --> 01:55:01,840 hotel water as i like the pejoration 3049 01:55:05,990 --> 01:55:04,239 and uh you know she i've talked to a 3050 01:55:07,510 --> 01:55:06,000 bunch of people from like certain states 3051 01:55:09,189 --> 01:55:07,520 like florida that 3052 01:55:11,030 --> 01:55:09,199 have kind of what i would consider 3053 01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:11,040 subpar water and they just they don't 3054 01:55:15,669 --> 01:55:12,480 even realize it anymore you know they're 3055 01:55:18,390 --> 01:55:17,510 phoenix 3056 01:55:20,070 --> 01:55:18,400 yeah 3057 01:55:22,790 --> 01:55:20,080 phoenix and albuquerque have terrible 3058 01:55:25,270 --> 01:55:22,800 water because it's very old ancient 3059 01:55:27,669 --> 01:55:25,280 naturally desalinated uh 3060 01:55:29,750 --> 01:55:27,679 seawater that's been sitting there you 3061 01:55:31,189 --> 01:55:29,760 know becoming more and more hard and 3062 01:55:32,950 --> 01:55:31,199 mineralized 3063 01:55:34,310 --> 01:55:32,960 over millions of years of just sitting 3064 01:55:36,629 --> 01:55:34,320 there and 3065 01:55:38,790 --> 01:55:36,639 nestle actually wants to open a water 3066 01:55:40,550 --> 01:55:38,800 bottling plant in the phoenix area which 3067 01:55:42,550 --> 01:55:40,560 to me is the most ludicrous thing i've 3068 01:55:43,830 --> 01:55:42,560 ever heard but number one there's not 3069 01:55:46,870 --> 01:55:43,840 enough water 3070 01:55:48,310 --> 01:55:46,880 and uh to actually try to 3071 01:55:49,830 --> 01:55:48,320 capitalize on 3072 01:55:51,990 --> 01:55:49,840 some of the worst water i think in a 3073 01:55:55,350 --> 01:55:52,000 major metropolitan area north america 3074 01:55:57,669 --> 01:55:55,360 it's just it blows my mind but i digress 3075 01:56:00,229 --> 01:55:57,679 well this one fast thing well a lot of 3076 01:56:02,950 --> 01:56:00,239 these companies do is they use reverse 3077 01:56:05,030 --> 01:56:02,960 osmosis systems to clean the water 3078 01:56:07,990 --> 01:56:05,040 before it's bottled but yeah it is kind 3079 01:56:10,229 --> 01:56:08,000 of strange that you get bottled water 3080 01:56:12,310 --> 01:56:10,239 and you have no idea 3081 01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:12,320 where it came from supposedly the 3082 01:56:18,070 --> 01:56:15,280 processing system would make them clean 3083 01:56:22,310 --> 01:56:20,149 yeah it's it's interesting chris about 3084 01:56:24,550 --> 01:56:22,320 the bottled water you do realize that uh 3085 01:56:28,390 --> 01:56:24,560 if water is bottled and sold in the same 3086 01:56:31,510 --> 01:56:28,400 state the fda has no purview over that 3087 01:56:33,830 --> 01:56:31,520 wow i did not know that um say what you 3088 01:56:36,629 --> 01:56:33,840 want to about the randy eights pin and 3089 01:56:38,310 --> 01:56:36,639 teller um but i did find their showtime 3090 01:56:41,830 --> 01:56:38,320 series um 3091 01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:41,840 it's not it's not fcc 3092 01:56:45,910 --> 01:56:43,840 but uh bs is the name of their their 3093 01:56:47,589 --> 01:56:45,920 showtime series and like they made fun 3094 01:56:49,189 --> 01:56:47,599 of nick redfern on one episode which 3095 01:56:49,910 --> 01:56:49,199 obviously i don't i'm not a fan of but 3096 01:56:51,669 --> 01:56:49,920 like 3097 01:56:54,310 --> 01:56:51,679 exactly 3098 01:56:55,830 --> 01:56:54,320 i like nick um but there's um 3099 01:56:57,669 --> 01:56:55,840 there's uh there are some episodes of 3100 01:56:59,830 --> 01:56:57,679 theirs that are quite illuminating their 3101 01:57:02,229 --> 01:56:59,840 bottled water episode was was really was 3102 01:57:04,310 --> 01:57:02,239 really entertaining in that respect 3103 01:57:06,709 --> 01:57:04,320 well they've they've um 3104 01:57:09,189 --> 01:57:06,719 there's been some exposes 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forums at 3217 02:02:14,149 --> 02:02:12,950 some people say the power cast is going 3218 02:02:15,990 --> 02:02:14,159 downhill 3219 02:02:18,470 --> 02:02:16,000 going to the dogs 3220 02:02:19,830 --> 02:02:18,480 smells i don't agree with that chris 3221 02:02:21,910 --> 02:02:19,840 don't we have a few questions from 3222 02:02:23,990 --> 02:02:21,920 listeners for joshua 3223 02:02:26,229 --> 02:02:24,000 uh yeah give me a second to dig them up 3224 02:02:26,950 --> 02:02:26,239 here um okay just to let your listeners 3225 02:02:29,510 --> 02:02:26,960 know 3226 02:02:31,669 --> 02:02:29,520 sometimes when we get news of a guest 3227 02:02:32,990 --> 02:02:31,679 most of the time we put up a thread in 3228 02:02:35,589 --> 02:02:33,000 our forums at 3229 02:02:37,669 --> 02:02:35,599 forum.powercast.com called question bank 3230 02:02:39,189 --> 02:02:37,679 and gives you a chance to ask questions 3231 02:02:40,870 --> 02:02:39,199 of our guests 3232 02:02:43,189 --> 02:02:40,880 and it's different obviously than 3233 02:02:45,430 --> 02:02:43,199 interacting by phone and we haven't done 3234 02:02:47,510 --> 02:02:45,440 that because the logistics of 3235 02:02:49,589 --> 02:02:47,520 trying to set up phone conversations 3236 02:02:52,470 --> 02:02:49,599 when we're pre-recording this 3237 02:02:54,709 --> 02:02:52,480 is a little bit difficult chris 3238 02:02:57,589 --> 02:02:54,719 yeah a good question from han and we 3239 02:02:59,669 --> 02:02:57,599 have not talked about this particular 3240 02:03:03,189 --> 02:02:59,679 quality of smell 3241 02:03:05,109 --> 02:03:03,199 but it's ozone and he uh says 3242 02:03:06,790 --> 02:03:05,119 i'm very interested in this subject 3243 02:03:08,790 --> 02:03:06,800 because smells are so powerful and 3244 02:03:10,790 --> 02:03:08,800 triggering memories when i read the 3245 02:03:14,229 --> 02:03:10,800 description of the show i was instantly 3246 02:03:16,470 --> 02:03:14,239 reminded of when i smelled lightning to 3247 02:03:19,109 --> 02:03:16,480 explain briefly i was fishing when a 3248 02:03:21,990 --> 02:03:19,119 lightning storm came i instantly dropped 3249 02:03:23,990 --> 02:03:22,000 my rod and took shelter under a bridge 3250 02:03:25,910 --> 02:03:24,000 lightning struck very close and the air 3251 02:03:27,830 --> 02:03:25,920 was filled with an odor 3252 02:03:30,070 --> 02:03:27,840 my best attempt to describe the smell 3253 02:03:31,830 --> 02:03:30,080 would be to say that it smelled very 3254 02:03:34,070 --> 02:03:31,840 similar to when you hit one piece of 3255 02:03:36,629 --> 02:03:34,080 flint rock against another 3256 02:03:38,629 --> 02:03:36,639 i know this is not paranormal but i just 3257 02:03:39,430 --> 02:03:38,639 wanted to say that when 3258 02:03:41,030 --> 02:03:39,440 uh 3259 02:03:43,910 --> 02:03:41,040 from my personal experience that when a 3260 02:03:45,750 --> 02:03:43,920 high amount of energy is released 3261 02:03:47,669 --> 02:03:45,760 an odor can be given off and and of 3262 02:03:49,990 --> 02:03:47,679 course he's talking i think about ozone 3263 02:03:51,830 --> 02:03:50,000 isn't he 3264 02:03:54,390 --> 02:03:51,840 is that is that correct josh are we 3265 02:03:57,350 --> 02:03:54,400 talking about ozone 100 absolutely and 3266 02:03:59,109 --> 02:03:57,360 this is um not paranormal but entirely 3267 02:04:01,430 --> 02:03:59,119 germane um so 3268 02:04:03,510 --> 02:04:01,440 there's been a long-standing conflation 3269 02:04:06,310 --> 02:04:03,520 between sulfur and ozone you'll find um 3270 02:04:07,910 --> 02:04:06,320 some old flying saucer review 3271 02:04:09,589 --> 02:04:07,920 articles where they say people say that 3272 02:04:10,870 --> 02:04:09,599 when they see ufos they've been spelling 3273 02:04:12,550 --> 02:04:10,880 sulfur but they're actually smelling 3274 02:04:15,030 --> 02:04:12,560 ozone well 3275 02:04:17,830 --> 02:04:15,040 i kind of call that as sort of a 3276 02:04:19,189 --> 02:04:17,840 a species conclusion um 3277 02:04:21,350 --> 02:04:19,199 but um 3278 02:04:22,870 --> 02:04:21,360 but yeah ozone is ozone is one of the 3279 02:04:25,189 --> 02:04:22,880 more common 3280 02:04:27,830 --> 02:04:25,199 uh ufo smells and the fact that people 3281 02:04:29,750 --> 02:04:27,840 don't realize what ozone smells like um 3282 02:04:30,790 --> 02:04:29,760 sort of con confuses the issue a lot 3283 02:04:31,910 --> 02:04:30,800 because 3284 02:04:35,189 --> 02:04:31,920 a lot of times we say it smells like 3285 02:04:38,390 --> 02:04:35,199 burning wire or it smells peppery um 3286 02:04:39,990 --> 02:04:38,400 and that's what you'll hear in cases um 3287 02:04:42,070 --> 02:04:40,000 so ozone doesn't appear at all in 3288 02:04:45,350 --> 02:04:42,080 sasquatch cases obviously but it does 3289 02:04:48,310 --> 02:04:45,360 appear in not only ufo cases but also um 3290 02:04:50,070 --> 02:04:48,320 certain spirit cases specifically in uh 3291 02:04:52,629 --> 02:04:50,080 seances where ectoplasm has been 3292 02:04:53,990 --> 02:04:52,639 reported to smell like ozone or 3293 02:04:55,669 --> 02:04:54,000 exorcisms 3294 02:04:57,669 --> 02:04:55,679 what's interesting about that is that 3295 02:04:59,750 --> 02:04:57,679 ozone will smell like 3296 02:05:02,709 --> 02:04:59,760 ozone will appear in an exorcism 3297 02:05:05,109 --> 02:05:02,719 scenario after the 3298 02:05:06,550 --> 02:05:05,119 subject has been exercised 3299 02:05:09,109 --> 02:05:06,560 which is interesting because as we all 3300 02:05:11,910 --> 02:05:09,119 know ozone is a disinfectant 3301 02:05:13,910 --> 02:05:11,920 ozone is used to remove smells ozone is 3302 02:05:14,870 --> 02:05:13,920 used to purify 3303 02:05:15,910 --> 02:05:14,880 um 3304 02:05:17,270 --> 02:05:15,920 so 3305 02:05:19,990 --> 02:05:17,280 that's one aspect of it but if you look 3306 02:05:21,270 --> 02:05:20,000 at the ufological aspect of it um again 3307 02:05:22,709 --> 02:05:21,280 you have this conflation between sulfur 3308 02:05:25,109 --> 02:05:22,719 and ozone like 3309 02:05:26,470 --> 02:05:25,119 uh ancient classicists i believe homer 3310 02:05:28,310 --> 02:05:26,480 used to refer to lightning coming down 3311 02:05:29,430 --> 02:05:28,320 from the sky and smelling like sulfur so 3312 02:05:31,109 --> 02:05:29,440 obviously you've got this conflation 3313 02:05:33,430 --> 02:05:31,119 that has gone all the way through like 3314 02:05:36,310 --> 02:05:33,440 ben franklin has made this similar 3315 02:05:39,669 --> 02:05:36,320 mistake um but you will find plenty of 3316 02:05:41,109 --> 02:05:39,679 cases where people tend to smell ozone 3317 02:05:43,030 --> 02:05:41,119 what's really interesting to me is that 3318 02:05:43,990 --> 02:05:43,040 a lot of these cases tend to 3319 02:05:45,750 --> 02:05:44,000 um 3320 02:05:49,430 --> 02:05:45,760 coincide with cases where people have 3321 02:05:51,750 --> 02:05:49,440 seen blue or purple um 3322 02:05:54,070 --> 02:05:51,760 light now ozone is not only produced by 3323 02:05:55,750 --> 02:05:54,080 you know the stripping of certain 3324 02:05:57,189 --> 02:05:55,760 molecules with lightning strikes 3325 02:05:58,550 --> 02:05:57,199 electrical discharges but it's also 3326 02:06:00,790 --> 02:05:58,560 photochemical 3327 02:06:02,629 --> 02:06:00,800 um and basically what that means is that 3328 02:06:04,950 --> 02:06:02,639 you know when we see 3329 02:06:06,870 --> 02:06:04,960 when we see 3330 02:06:09,510 --> 02:06:06,880 the arcing of electricity we're usually 3331 02:06:11,830 --> 02:06:09,520 seeing the uh the uh 3332 02:06:13,589 --> 02:06:11,840 illumination of the air 3333 02:06:15,669 --> 02:06:13,599 um 3334 02:06:18,149 --> 02:06:15,679 ozone can also be created by our 3335 02:06:20,149 --> 02:06:18,159 ultraviolet light which often has a 3336 02:06:22,229 --> 02:06:20,159 purple or blue character 3337 02:06:24,229 --> 02:06:22,239 so it seems to suggest that whatever 3338 02:06:27,430 --> 02:06:24,239 this is 3339 02:06:29,910 --> 02:06:27,440 might possibly be producing ozone as a 3340 02:06:31,109 --> 02:06:29,920 byproduct of its appearance in our 3341 02:06:33,109 --> 02:06:31,119 atmosphere 3342 02:06:34,950 --> 02:06:33,119 which is interesting also when you um 3343 02:06:36,709 --> 02:06:34,960 compare you know 3344 02:06:40,550 --> 02:06:36,719 certain symptoms that people have when 3345 02:06:44,229 --> 02:06:40,560 seeing ufos vague sunburn-like effects 3346 02:06:45,109 --> 02:06:44,239 perhaps um perhaps the the object itself 3347 02:06:49,109 --> 02:06:45,119 is 3348 02:06:50,310 --> 02:06:49,119 which actually believe it or not shields 3349 02:06:52,870 --> 02:06:50,320 people from 3350 02:06:54,149 --> 02:06:52,880 um even more intense ultraviolet effects 3351 02:06:55,350 --> 02:06:54,159 so actually 3352 02:06:57,189 --> 02:06:55,360 they're lucky that they got off of the 3353 02:06:59,430 --> 02:06:57,199 sunburn 3354 02:07:00,790 --> 02:06:59,440 but um all of this is taught again it's 3355 02:07:01,830 --> 02:07:00,800 tied into this really confusing thing 3356 02:07:03,510 --> 02:07:01,840 because a lot of people don't realize 3357 02:07:06,069 --> 02:07:03,520 what ozone smells like 3358 02:07:07,910 --> 02:07:06,079 in general um what i do find interesting 3359 02:07:09,430 --> 02:07:07,920 is that you'll find people who claim 3360 02:07:11,990 --> 02:07:09,440 that um 3361 02:07:13,510 --> 02:07:12,000 meteorites will also smell similarly the 3362 02:07:15,830 --> 02:07:13,520 idea that something from space might 3363 02:07:17,669 --> 02:07:15,840 actually have this sort of ozone sulfur 3364 02:07:19,189 --> 02:07:17,679 gunpowder-ish smell 3365 02:07:21,430 --> 02:07:19,199 um none of those i think are 3366 02:07:23,109 --> 02:07:21,440 particularly similar but you'll find 3367 02:07:24,870 --> 02:07:23,119 people conflating these different ideas 3368 02:07:27,189 --> 02:07:24,880 so again it's part of this 3369 02:07:28,950 --> 02:07:27,199 this this tip of the nose phenomena that 3370 02:07:30,870 --> 02:07:28,960 i mentioned earlier where you'll find 3371 02:07:33,350 --> 02:07:30,880 people who are who are confusing ozone 3372 02:07:36,149 --> 02:07:33,360 with sulfur and vice versa but ozone is 3373 02:07:37,270 --> 02:07:36,159 definitely one of the most common 3374 02:07:38,790 --> 02:07:37,280 smells that you encounter what's 3375 02:07:40,390 --> 02:07:38,800 interesting to me too 3376 02:07:41,830 --> 02:07:40,400 is that um if you've ever heard of 3377 02:07:42,629 --> 02:07:41,840 people talk about like fresh mountain 3378 02:07:46,149 --> 02:07:42,639 air 3379 02:07:48,629 --> 02:07:46,159 fresh is because pine trees tend to 3380 02:07:50,069 --> 02:07:48,639 exude volatile organic compounds which 3381 02:07:52,069 --> 02:07:50,079 interact with the atmosphere at that 3382 02:07:53,350 --> 02:07:52,079 certain altitude and produce an excess 3383 02:07:56,550 --> 02:07:53,360 amount of ozone 3384 02:07:58,470 --> 02:07:56,560 so then it comes into question well 3385 02:07:59,910 --> 02:07:58,480 if people say that something smells like 3386 02:08:01,109 --> 02:07:59,920 pine trees 3387 02:08:02,470 --> 02:08:01,119 does that 3388 02:08:03,510 --> 02:08:02,480 mean they're smelling ozone and believe 3389 02:08:04,709 --> 02:08:03,520 it or not 3390 02:08:07,189 --> 02:08:04,719 there are cases where people have 3391 02:08:09,589 --> 02:08:07,199 smelled pine trees or pine-like scents 3392 02:08:11,589 --> 02:08:09,599 around ufos so it definitely seems to 3393 02:08:12,950 --> 02:08:11,599 suggest that ozone is at least 3394 02:08:14,310 --> 02:08:12,960 again 3395 02:08:15,910 --> 02:08:14,320 i don't think it's i personally from 3396 02:08:18,069 --> 02:08:15,920 what i've i've seen i don't think that 3397 02:08:20,310 --> 02:08:18,079 it's the most common ufological smell 3398 02:08:21,830 --> 02:08:20,320 but it might be like the second most 3399 02:08:24,550 --> 02:08:21,840 uh i think that's that's a very real 3400 02:08:29,270 --> 02:08:27,510 and one thing that uh kind of leaps out 3401 02:08:31,030 --> 02:08:29,280 in my mind 3402 02:08:33,430 --> 02:08:31,040 i was working 3403 02:08:35,430 --> 02:08:33,440 for a video production company and they 3404 02:08:38,069 --> 02:08:35,440 wanted to clean the air 3405 02:08:40,310 --> 02:08:38,079 when they moved into a basement space 3406 02:08:42,470 --> 02:08:40,320 for for a studio and 3407 02:08:45,350 --> 02:08:42,480 i remember the owner brought in an ozone 3408 02:08:47,270 --> 02:08:45,360 generator uh that he rented somewhere 3409 02:08:49,189 --> 02:08:47,280 and he for he forgot that he turned it 3410 02:08:51,430 --> 02:08:49,199 on when we left he was going to come 3411 02:08:53,350 --> 02:08:51,440 back and turn it off he forgot 3412 02:08:56,069 --> 02:08:53,360 when we came in the next morning i'll 3413 02:08:57,750 --> 02:08:56,079 never forget that smell i i really never 3414 02:08:59,750 --> 02:08:57,760 up to that point 3415 02:09:01,109 --> 02:08:59,760 really could put my finger on what ozone 3416 02:09:03,189 --> 02:09:01,119 smelled like 3417 02:09:05,510 --> 02:09:03,199 well i sure could after 3418 02:09:09,189 --> 02:09:05,520 walking into the studio had a very very 3419 02:09:11,669 --> 02:09:09,199 distinctive smell and uh it it wasn't 3420 02:09:14,790 --> 02:09:11,679 particularly unpleasant but at the same 3421 02:09:17,669 --> 02:09:14,800 time it wasn't it 3422 02:09:19,990 --> 02:09:17,679 wasn't a cache of pleasant smells either 3423 02:09:21,270 --> 02:09:20,000 right i suspect that if people if more 3424 02:09:24,069 --> 02:09:21,280 people were to have experiences like 3425 02:09:25,589 --> 02:09:24,079 that we would have a lot clearer 3426 02:09:29,189 --> 02:09:25,599 idea of what they're smelling in certain 3427 02:09:31,109 --> 02:09:29,199 ufo encounters um because 3428 02:09:32,149 --> 02:09:31,119 it's it seems like if from everything 3429 02:09:34,310 --> 02:09:32,159 having 3430 02:09:35,589 --> 02:09:34,320 i'm sure that i've smelled ozone before 3431 02:09:36,870 --> 02:09:35,599 i don't know that i can put my finger on 3432 02:09:38,629 --> 02:09:36,880 it but i'm sure that if i smell it again 3433 02:09:39,430 --> 02:09:38,639 a i would realize it but b 3434 02:09:41,189 --> 02:09:39,440 um 3435 02:09:42,229 --> 02:09:41,199 i don't think that's a very easy scent 3436 02:09:45,669 --> 02:09:42,239 to 3437 02:09:46,950 --> 02:09:45,679 like burn out electrical burn out 3438 02:09:49,350 --> 02:09:46,960 electrical wiring but that doesn't 3439 02:09:51,990 --> 02:09:49,360 really seem to convey the nuances of of 3440 02:09:53,510 --> 02:09:52,000 how ozone really smells 3441 02:09:55,910 --> 02:09:53,520 yeah i i'm 3442 02:09:57,350 --> 02:09:55,920 as you're talking i'm trying to drive 3443 02:09:59,270 --> 02:09:57,360 what that's trying to form a synth 3444 02:10:01,189 --> 02:09:59,280 picture which is not 3445 02:10:02,870 --> 02:10:01,199 yeah it's very difficult uh and that 3446 02:10:04,870 --> 02:10:02,880 brings up a point that we you know we 3447 02:10:05,990 --> 02:10:04,880 really brought up very early in the show 3448 02:10:08,229 --> 02:10:06,000 is 3449 02:10:09,830 --> 02:10:08,239 you know the very uh aspect of of 3450 02:10:12,069 --> 02:10:09,840 languaging and how 3451 02:10:13,510 --> 02:10:12,079 it's used to describe smells very very 3452 02:10:15,430 --> 02:10:13,520 difficult 3453 02:10:17,430 --> 02:10:15,440 not only that but like it's the the fact 3454 02:10:19,589 --> 02:10:17,440 that you cannot form a scent picture 3455 02:10:22,229 --> 02:10:19,599 really does argue 3456 02:10:24,470 --> 02:10:22,239 against the use of hypnotic regression 3457 02:10:25,510 --> 02:10:24,480 to describe smells we've got more to 3458 02:10:27,430 --> 02:10:25,520 come 3459 02:10:29,589 --> 02:10:27,440 and that just smells 3460 02:10:39,990 --> 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02:14:35,910 --> 02:14:33,760 body is an amazing thing it simply needs 3559 02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:35,920 some help so it has the tools to heal 3560 02:14:40,229 --> 02:14:37,840 itself heart and body extract gets 3561 02:14:43,229 --> 02:14:40,239 results to order your two-month supply 3562 02:14:45,510 --> 02:14:43,239 call now toll-free at 3563 02:14:49,900 --> 02:14:45,520 866-295-5305 order online at 3564 02:14:49,910 --> 02:14:54,709 [Music] 3565 02:14:57,669 --> 02:14:56,069 this is micah hanks at the graveling 3566 02:14:59,990 --> 02:14:57,679 report and you're listening to the 3567 02:15:03,200 --> 02:15:00,000 paracast the gold standard of paranormal 3568 02:15:11,350 --> 02:15:09,109 [Music] 3569 02:15:13,109 --> 02:15:11,360 you were saying joshua that 3570 02:15:14,550 --> 02:15:13,119 in terms of things like hypnotic 3571 02:15:16,229 --> 02:15:14,560 regressions 3572 02:15:18,629 --> 02:15:16,239 of abductions 3573 02:15:19,830 --> 02:15:18,639 that the issue of smell is difficult to 3574 02:15:21,350 --> 02:15:19,840 talk about 3575 02:15:22,790 --> 02:15:21,360 it is um 3576 02:15:24,950 --> 02:15:22,800 there is 3577 02:15:25,750 --> 02:15:24,960 a certain amount of the populace that 3578 02:15:28,550 --> 02:15:25,760 will 3579 02:15:30,550 --> 02:15:28,560 readily admit that they cannot form 3580 02:15:32,390 --> 02:15:30,560 small pictures i believe it's like 40 of 3581 02:15:33,430 --> 02:15:32,400 the populists will admit that and and 3582 02:15:36,790 --> 02:15:33,440 and 3583 02:15:38,870 --> 02:15:36,800 certain that a lot of people can't 3584 02:15:40,149 --> 02:15:38,880 really form sent pictures quote unquote 3585 02:15:41,589 --> 02:15:40,159 in their mind 3586 02:15:42,629 --> 02:15:41,599 a lot of times if you form a scent 3587 02:15:45,109 --> 02:15:42,639 picture 3588 02:15:47,189 --> 02:15:45,119 you're more often than not forming 3589 02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:47,199 either a your emotional 3590 02:15:52,229 --> 02:15:50,560 or physiological reaction to it or uh be 3591 02:15:54,149 --> 02:15:52,239 like well i guess physiological like 3592 02:15:55,589 --> 02:15:54,159 just in terms of like the way that your 3593 02:15:56,870 --> 02:15:55,599 your your uh 3594 02:15:58,629 --> 02:15:56,880 you know if something seems accurate and 3595 02:16:01,189 --> 02:15:58,639 it stimulates your again trigeminal 3596 02:16:02,790 --> 02:16:01,199 nerve you might remember that particular 3597 02:16:04,709 --> 02:16:02,800 aspect um 3598 02:16:06,390 --> 02:16:04,719 so yeah so that brings up a lot of 3599 02:16:09,109 --> 02:16:06,400 questions in terms of how we should 3600 02:16:11,830 --> 02:16:09,119 treat smells remembered under hypnotic 3601 02:16:13,990 --> 02:16:11,840 regression um for me 3602 02:16:16,229 --> 02:16:14,000 i tend to i tend to take in as much data 3603 02:16:18,790 --> 02:16:16,239 as i can unless something smells pardon 3604 02:16:20,470 --> 02:16:18,800 the pun smells really bad i discard it 3605 02:16:23,109 --> 02:16:20,480 um for me i tend to think of myself as 3606 02:16:27,109 --> 02:16:23,119 almost like a a folklore a focal artist 3607 02:16:29,750 --> 02:16:27,119 who has a strong urge to say what if 3608 02:16:31,270 --> 02:16:29,760 um but i mentioned earlier the antonio 3609 02:16:33,270 --> 02:16:31,280 roulon 3610 02:16:34,309 --> 02:16:33,280 study of ufo smells and he actually 3611 02:16:36,150 --> 02:16:34,319 threw out 3612 02:16:37,669 --> 02:16:36,160 smells retrieved under hypnotic 3613 02:16:39,589 --> 02:16:37,679 regression for this very reason is 3614 02:16:41,110 --> 02:16:39,599 because you know we can't really 3615 02:16:42,950 --> 02:16:41,120 recreate that in our mind and if we 3616 02:16:46,230 --> 02:16:42,960 can't recreate it in our mind we 3617 02:16:49,030 --> 02:16:46,240 probably would not have a very fruitful 3618 02:16:50,389 --> 02:16:49,040 result of trying to you know re-engage 3619 02:16:52,549 --> 02:16:50,399 those sensations under hypnotic 3620 02:16:53,830 --> 02:16:52,559 regression this has nothing to do with 3621 02:16:56,389 --> 02:16:53,840 anything maybe 3622 02:16:58,629 --> 02:16:56,399 but i remember as a child maybe eight or 3623 02:17:01,509 --> 02:16:58,639 ten years old going through a period 3624 02:17:02,389 --> 02:17:01,519 where everything had a foul odor 3625 02:17:04,469 --> 02:17:02,399 and i 3626 02:17:06,389 --> 02:17:04,479 think sulfur maybe 3627 02:17:07,910 --> 02:17:06,399 but this went on for a period of time 3628 02:17:09,750 --> 02:17:07,920 and then disappeared 3629 02:17:12,070 --> 02:17:09,760 but i never had anything that i'd 3630 02:17:14,469 --> 02:17:12,080 perceive as a paranormal experience or 3631 02:17:15,750 --> 02:17:14,479 maybe i've forgotten it all yeah well 3632 02:17:16,950 --> 02:17:15,760 you know it sounds like your first 3633 02:17:18,389 --> 02:17:16,960 girlfriend 3634 02:17:20,549 --> 02:17:18,399 this was a little before the first 3635 02:17:22,150 --> 02:17:20,559 girlfriend 3636 02:17:24,709 --> 02:17:22,160 it sounds like you had a brief uh 3637 02:17:26,709 --> 02:17:24,719 flirtation with what is called ke cosmia 3638 02:17:28,469 --> 02:17:26,719 which is the unpleasant interpretation 3639 02:17:30,629 --> 02:17:28,479 of pleasant smells 3640 02:17:32,309 --> 02:17:30,639 again there are various 3641 02:17:33,509 --> 02:17:32,319 psycho-neurological 3642 02:17:36,230 --> 02:17:33,519 conditions that people experience 3643 02:17:38,950 --> 02:17:36,240 regarding smell anosnia is the inability 3644 02:17:41,429 --> 02:17:38,960 to smell dysosmia is a distortion of 3645 02:17:43,190 --> 02:17:41,439 smell so you're misinterpreting smells 3646 02:17:44,709 --> 02:17:43,200 fantasmia as we talked about earlier was 3647 02:17:46,309 --> 02:17:44,719 the smelling of smells that aren't there 3648 02:17:48,070 --> 02:17:46,319 and kakosmia is the unpleasant 3649 02:17:49,429 --> 02:17:48,080 interpretation of smells that everyone 3650 02:17:51,349 --> 02:17:49,439 else considers pleasant so it sounds 3651 02:17:52,629 --> 02:17:51,359 like a little bit of misfiring there 3652 02:17:58,070 --> 02:17:52,639 perhaps 3653 02:18:01,669 --> 02:17:59,910 oh it wasn't so bad 3654 02:18:02,629 --> 02:18:01,679 hey when i lived in brooklyn i was right 3655 02:18:05,030 --> 02:18:02,639 above 3656 02:18:07,750 --> 02:18:05,040 a bagel and bialy shop i'll tell you 3657 02:18:08,950 --> 02:18:07,760 that that was the nicest smelling place 3658 02:18:11,110 --> 02:18:08,960 i ever lived 3659 02:18:13,270 --> 02:18:11,120 every morning oh that smells awesome 3660 02:18:15,349 --> 02:18:13,280 sounds awesome yeah oh man when they 3661 02:18:17,750 --> 02:18:15,359 were when they were cooking those 3662 02:18:20,070 --> 02:18:17,760 bagels uh even the garlic bagels smelled 3663 02:18:23,429 --> 02:18:20,080 good when they were cooking them those 3664 02:18:25,429 --> 02:18:23,439 are the old-fashioned union-based 3665 02:18:27,669 --> 02:18:25,439 bakers from new york 3666 02:18:29,589 --> 02:18:27,679 there was a bacon baker's union and a 3667 02:18:32,070 --> 02:18:29,599 friend of mine told me once that if you 3668 02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:32,080 got into that union and i suspect it no 3669 02:18:37,750 --> 02:18:34,719 longer exists if you got into that union 3670 02:18:40,469 --> 02:18:37,760 you had a job a guarantee of a job for 3671 02:18:41,509 --> 02:18:40,479 life with a decent pay 3672 02:18:43,750 --> 02:18:41,519 well 3673 02:18:45,830 --> 02:18:43,760 i never heard from him again though 3674 02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:45,840 the the flip side to that is the first 3675 02:18:50,709 --> 02:18:49,200 time at the mall in flagstaff arizona um 3676 02:18:52,790 --> 02:18:50,719 you know i was going to buy a pair of 3677 02:18:54,629 --> 02:18:52,800 sneaks or something and uh 3678 02:18:58,790 --> 02:18:54,639 i always wondered what that factory was 3679 02:19:00,629 --> 02:18:58,800 uh just upwind of the mall 3680 02:19:03,030 --> 02:19:00,639 and uh unfortunately the wind was 3681 02:19:04,830 --> 02:19:03,040 blowing in the wrong direction that day 3682 02:19:07,910 --> 02:19:04,840 and much to my 3683 02:19:09,509 --> 02:19:07,920 horror that factory was the purina dog 3684 02:19:11,830 --> 02:19:09,519 chow plant 3685 02:19:15,270 --> 02:19:11,840 oh and uh 3686 02:19:19,830 --> 02:19:18,150 cooking puppy chow and rendering 3687 02:19:22,469 --> 02:19:19,840 animals 3688 02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:22,479 rivals any pulp mill in almost any 3689 02:19:25,709 --> 02:19:24,639 feedlot that i've ever been exposed to 3690 02:19:27,509 --> 02:19:25,719 it was 3691 02:19:30,389 --> 02:19:27,519 disgusting 3692 02:19:32,070 --> 02:19:30,399 i'll i'll see your uh your food chow 3693 02:19:34,629 --> 02:19:32,080 um your dog chow 3694 02:19:35,509 --> 02:19:34,639 experience and raise it to um going to 3695 02:19:37,270 --> 02:19:35,519 school at the university of 3696 02:19:39,110 --> 02:19:37,280 wisconsin-madison which 3697 02:19:40,709 --> 02:19:39,120 oh it's great 3698 02:19:42,230 --> 02:19:40,719 i have a great place in my heart for but 3699 02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:42,240 um no actually it wasn't the cheese 3700 02:19:46,870 --> 02:19:44,960 thing it was well yeah they have so it's 3701 02:19:49,830 --> 02:19:46,880 madison sits on an isthmus so it's 3702 02:19:51,990 --> 02:19:49,840 between two lakes um 3703 02:19:54,070 --> 02:19:52,000 and they have dairy farms dairy barns 3704 02:19:55,590 --> 02:19:54,080 rather on one of the lakes and there 3705 02:19:56,790 --> 02:19:55,600 were some days where that smell would 3706 02:19:58,550 --> 02:19:56,800 come off that dairy bar and you would 3707 02:19:59,750 --> 02:19:58,560 spend all day walking to class looking 3708 02:20:01,110 --> 02:19:59,760 at the soles of your feet because you're 3709 02:20:03,910 --> 02:20:01,120 like i must have stepped into something 3710 02:20:05,590 --> 02:20:03,920 what did i step in where is it 3711 02:20:07,990 --> 02:20:05,600 doing the two foot shuffle like ah no 3712 02:20:09,750 --> 02:20:08,000 that smells like yeah 3713 02:20:12,630 --> 02:20:09,760 that happens from time to time 3714 02:20:15,110 --> 02:20:12,640 this show is just taking us to the edge 3715 02:20:17,429 --> 02:20:15,120 crossing the edge going over the edge 3716 02:20:19,349 --> 02:20:17,439 chris are there some more questions 3717 02:20:22,630 --> 02:20:19,359 yeah i have a really good one here uh 3718 02:20:25,070 --> 02:20:22,640 this is from wade uh who has been a long 3719 02:20:27,349 --> 02:20:25,080 time faithful poster at 3720 02:20:29,429 --> 02:20:27,359 forum.paracast.com where our listeners 3721 02:20:31,510 --> 02:20:29,439 get a chance to post questions for our 3722 02:20:33,910 --> 02:20:31,520 guests and in this case 3723 02:20:35,670 --> 02:20:33,920 joshua you're on the uh 3724 02:20:38,230 --> 02:20:35,680 we'll see if you pass the smell test on 3725 02:20:40,150 --> 02:20:38,240 this one um 3726 02:20:42,389 --> 02:20:40,160 this is interesting i've i've never 3727 02:20:44,790 --> 02:20:42,399 heard this you may have 3728 02:20:47,030 --> 02:20:44,800 maybe a leg up on this situation 3729 02:20:49,590 --> 02:20:47,040 and uh according to wade he's not even 3730 02:20:52,230 --> 02:20:49,600 sure where he found out this information 3731 02:20:54,469 --> 02:20:52,240 but uh i'm going to throw it at you 3732 02:20:55,670 --> 02:20:54,479 yeah just just repeat wade's question 3733 02:20:59,270 --> 02:20:55,680 just repeat wade's question that'll 3734 02:21:01,510 --> 02:20:59,280 probably cover it yeah in regards to the 3735 02:21:03,510 --> 02:21:01,520 sulfuric smell that is reported to be 3736 02:21:05,750 --> 02:21:03,520 associated 3737 02:21:07,910 --> 02:21:05,760 i read somewhere 3738 02:21:09,750 --> 02:21:07,920 that it would be possible to transform 3739 02:21:11,190 --> 02:21:09,760 oxygen 3740 02:21:13,270 --> 02:21:11,200 into sulfur 3741 02:21:15,270 --> 02:21:13,280 but it would require an energy source 3742 02:21:17,110 --> 02:21:15,280 that is currently far beyond our current 3743 02:21:19,190 --> 02:21:17,120 capabilities 3744 02:21:22,309 --> 02:21:19,200 and he puts 2 billion volts with a 3745 02:21:26,469 --> 02:21:24,710 even if there is a foreign energy source 3746 02:21:28,710 --> 02:21:26,479 that could somehow be introduced into 3747 02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:28,720 our environment that could explain this 3748 02:21:33,110 --> 02:21:30,160 smell 3749 02:21:35,590 --> 02:21:33,120 wouldn't such a source manifest manifest 3750 02:21:38,630 --> 02:21:35,600 itself in another way 3751 02:21:40,150 --> 02:21:38,640 that would draw attention to its effects 3752 02:21:42,950 --> 02:21:40,160 now have you ever heard that that you 3753 02:21:45,910 --> 02:21:42,960 can actually transform 3754 02:21:47,590 --> 02:21:45,920 yeah i actually have um 3755 02:21:49,349 --> 02:21:47,600 so so this is sort of tying to that 3756 02:21:50,790 --> 02:21:49,359 thing that keel thought that you could 3757 02:21:54,790 --> 02:21:50,800 produce 3758 02:21:56,550 --> 02:21:54,800 hydrogen sulfide by um 3759 02:21:58,150 --> 02:21:56,560 by 3760 02:22:00,469 --> 02:21:58,160 manifesting some sort of amount of 3761 02:22:02,150 --> 02:22:00,479 energy in our current reality 3762 02:22:03,030 --> 02:22:02,160 um i don't put a lot of stock in that 3763 02:22:06,309 --> 02:22:03,040 but 3764 02:22:07,750 --> 02:22:06,319 um emmanuel velikovsky in his uh book 3765 02:22:10,389 --> 02:22:07,760 night in the in the beginning which i 3766 02:22:12,870 --> 02:22:10,399 believe was never published 3767 02:22:13,990 --> 02:22:12,880 mentions that you know so velikovsky was 3768 02:22:17,349 --> 02:22:14,000 sort of the father of the electric 3769 02:22:19,510 --> 02:22:17,359 universe theory and he he s he suggests 3770 02:22:21,910 --> 02:22:19,520 that sulfur could be generated from pure 3771 02:22:23,590 --> 02:22:21,920 air via an electrical discharge but like 3772 02:22:25,910 --> 02:22:23,600 the amount of the amount of power that 3773 02:22:27,830 --> 02:22:25,920 we're talking about would be like would 3774 02:22:30,550 --> 02:22:27,840 rival current modern particle 3775 02:22:32,710 --> 02:22:30,560 accelerators um so 3776 02:22:35,910 --> 02:22:32,720 that's not the question for what 3777 02:22:36,790 --> 02:22:35,920 an advanced civilization could could uh 3778 02:22:37,910 --> 02:22:36,800 could 3779 02:22:39,270 --> 02:22:37,920 implement 3780 02:22:40,710 --> 02:22:39,280 but it doesn't 3781 02:22:43,830 --> 02:22:40,720 again for the reasons that wade 3782 02:22:45,750 --> 02:22:43,840 mentioned um it doesn't seem like it 3783 02:22:48,950 --> 02:22:45,760 would it would be 3784 02:22:50,950 --> 02:22:48,960 an inconspicuous event um and again like 3785 02:22:53,990 --> 02:22:50,960 this is all very from my understanding 3786 02:22:55,590 --> 02:22:54,000 of it it's all very theoretical um so i 3787 02:22:56,710 --> 02:22:55,600 don't really put a lot of stock in that 3788 02:22:58,469 --> 02:22:56,720 particular 3789 02:22:59,990 --> 02:22:58,479 suggestion although i have heard of it 3790 02:23:01,910 --> 02:23:00,000 definitely 3791 02:23:04,870 --> 02:23:01,920 well that's a new one on me i had no 3792 02:23:06,070 --> 02:23:04,880 idea that you could do that 3793 02:23:07,590 --> 02:23:06,080 you've got to look at like you've got to 3794 02:23:11,030 --> 02:23:07,600 look at like 3795 02:23:13,429 --> 02:23:11,040 the the prevalence of sulfur in the 3796 02:23:16,070 --> 02:23:13,439 universe i mean i believe that it's like 3797 02:23:18,389 --> 02:23:16,080 it's in the top five most common 3798 02:23:20,550 --> 02:23:18,399 elements in in the entire universe 3799 02:23:22,469 --> 02:23:20,560 um so there's no shortage of sulfur in 3800 02:23:25,190 --> 02:23:22,479 general um 3801 02:23:27,510 --> 02:23:25,200 but to suggest that 3802 02:23:29,190 --> 02:23:27,520 a discharge i think you would 3803 02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:29,200 put it this way i think you would smell 3804 02:23:33,750 --> 02:23:31,120 a lot of other things with a discharge 3805 02:23:37,670 --> 02:23:33,760 that large before you'd smell silver 3806 02:23:41,110 --> 02:23:39,510 yeah that makes sense too 3807 02:23:42,950 --> 02:23:41,120 you'd go through a whole probably a 3808 02:23:44,150 --> 02:23:42,960 gamut of smells before you got to that 3809 02:23:45,750 --> 02:23:44,160 point but 3810 02:23:48,950 --> 02:23:45,760 well i figured i'd throw that one out 3811 02:23:53,910 --> 02:23:51,830 it's an interesting concept but here's 3812 02:23:55,270 --> 02:23:53,920 here's another question from han uh 3813 02:23:58,150 --> 02:23:55,280 harry newton 3814 02:24:01,190 --> 02:23:58,160 and this is a good one uh he kind of put 3815 02:24:03,349 --> 02:24:01,200 on a sinking cap for this one uh 3816 02:24:05,750 --> 02:24:03,359 have you looked into 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--> 02:28:32,960 untreated could lead to blindness the 3932 02:28:36,870 --> 02:28:35,200 good news amd can be managed with 3933 02:28:39,349 --> 02:28:36,880 effective clinically approved treatments 3934 02:28:41,349 --> 02:28:39,359 that may reverse some vision loss for 3935 02:28:43,910 --> 02:28:41,359 free amd information contact the 3936 02:28:46,550 --> 02:28:43,920 foundation fighting blindness at 1 800 3937 02:28:50,040 --> 02:28:46,560 blindness that's 1 800 blindness there 3938 02:28:57,270 --> 02:28:50,050 is a cure in sight 3939 02:28:58,950 --> 02:28:57,280 [Music] 3940 02:29:09,429 --> 02:28:58,960 hi my name is richard dolan you're 3941 02:29:14,230 --> 02:29:12,550 okay joshua cutchen you're on the carpet 3942 02:29:16,150 --> 02:29:14,240 for that one 3943 02:29:17,190 --> 02:29:16,160 i'm on the hook i feel like we sort of 3944 02:29:19,030 --> 02:29:17,200 discussed this a little bit with the 3945 02:29:21,830 --> 02:29:19,040 whole idea of frankincense in certain 3946 02:29:23,429 --> 02:29:21,840 instances right incenses not instances 3947 02:29:25,030 --> 02:29:23,439 but instances 3948 02:29:26,150 --> 02:29:25,040 there's definitely a connotation that 3949 02:29:30,790 --> 02:29:26,160 certain 3950 02:29:33,990 --> 02:29:30,800 and that's that's been common through 3951 02:29:34,950 --> 02:29:34,000 occultism since antiquity actually 3952 02:29:36,870 --> 02:29:34,960 okay 3953 02:29:40,309 --> 02:29:36,880 but how about i track them 3954 02:29:43,110 --> 02:29:40,319 um well you know we talk about um 3955 02:29:45,349 --> 02:29:43,120 the use of incense in certain occult 3956 02:29:46,630 --> 02:29:45,359 settings in terms of like providing that 3957 02:29:48,950 --> 02:29:46,640 set and setting for that particular 3958 02:29:50,870 --> 02:29:48,960 event there is some 3959 02:29:52,469 --> 02:29:50,880 literature out there and i didn't dive 3960 02:29:53,510 --> 02:29:52,479 deep into the grimoires for this but 3961 02:29:55,110 --> 02:29:53,520 there is some literature out there that 3962 02:29:56,230 --> 02:29:55,120 suggests that 3963 02:29:58,710 --> 02:29:56,240 sulfur 3964 02:30:01,349 --> 02:29:58,720 again is um is can actually have an 3965 02:30:04,950 --> 02:30:01,359 attracting effect as opposed to a 3966 02:30:06,309 --> 02:30:04,960 uh repelling effect on entities from the 3967 02:30:08,150 --> 02:30:06,319 other realm 3968 02:30:09,910 --> 02:30:08,160 so this this sort of dovetails into a 3969 02:30:12,870 --> 02:30:09,920 into a larger issue 3970 02:30:16,309 --> 02:30:12,880 which i do talk about which is 3971 02:30:17,349 --> 02:30:16,319 the idea of sulfur in alchemical thought 3972 02:30:20,870 --> 02:30:17,359 so 3973 02:30:23,270 --> 02:30:20,880 sulfur was part of the two contraries 3974 02:30:24,150 --> 02:30:23,280 uh sulfur versus mercury 3975 02:30:26,469 --> 02:30:24,160 in 3976 02:30:28,309 --> 02:30:26,479 ancient alchemist texts 3977 02:30:30,710 --> 02:30:28,319 and because of that like you see this 3978 02:30:32,389 --> 02:30:30,720 you see this theme repeated throughout 3979 02:30:34,230 --> 02:30:32,399 a lot of different cultures 3980 02:30:36,150 --> 02:30:34,240 the yin yang is sort of a representation 3981 02:30:37,670 --> 02:30:36,160 of this and the fact that like 3982 02:30:38,710 --> 02:30:37,680 some of the attributes of sulfur are 3983 02:30:40,070 --> 02:30:38,720 present in mercury and some of the 3984 02:30:41,270 --> 02:30:40,080 attributes of mercury are present in 3985 02:30:43,349 --> 02:30:41,280 sulfur 3986 02:30:44,550 --> 02:30:43,359 but what's interesting to me is that you 3987 02:30:46,070 --> 02:30:44,560 find 3988 02:30:48,550 --> 02:30:46,080 many philosophers who have been 3989 02:30:49,429 --> 02:30:48,560 interested in the occult 3990 02:30:51,190 --> 02:30:49,439 many 3991 02:30:53,910 --> 02:30:51,200 people like carl jung 3992 02:30:55,349 --> 02:30:53,920 have often equated supernatural 3993 02:30:57,750 --> 02:30:55,359 phenomena to 3994 02:30:59,030 --> 02:30:57,760 mercury in terms of like the mercurial 3995 02:31:00,870 --> 02:30:59,040 ideal 3996 02:31:03,750 --> 02:31:00,880 an alchemy so that means 3997 02:31:04,630 --> 02:31:03,760 being very fluid being 3998 02:31:06,150 --> 02:31:04,640 hidden 3999 02:31:07,190 --> 02:31:06,160 being 4000 02:31:09,830 --> 02:31:07,200 just 4001 02:31:11,750 --> 02:31:09,840 slightly occulted underneath the reality 4002 02:31:13,270 --> 02:31:11,760 of your day-to-day life but you haven't 4003 02:31:15,670 --> 02:31:13,280 found a lot of people who compare 4004 02:31:19,030 --> 02:31:15,680 paranormal phenomena to 4005 02:31:21,190 --> 02:31:19,040 the sulfuric ideal of alchemy um so i 4006 02:31:22,070 --> 02:31:21,200 found this to be sort of a 4007 02:31:23,750 --> 02:31:22,080 certain 4008 02:31:26,870 --> 02:31:23,760 dissonance right 4009 02:31:29,830 --> 02:31:26,880 because the mercurial analogy works so 4010 02:31:31,750 --> 02:31:29,840 well with supernatural phenomena but the 4011 02:31:32,790 --> 02:31:31,760 sulfuric analogy doesn't really work 4012 02:31:34,070 --> 02:31:32,800 that well 4013 02:31:35,670 --> 02:31:34,080 in general 4014 02:31:36,630 --> 02:31:35,680 and yet you have things smelling like 4015 02:31:38,710 --> 02:31:36,640 sulfur 4016 02:31:40,389 --> 02:31:38,720 so i think that's part of a 4017 02:31:42,550 --> 02:31:40,399 as part of a larger 4018 02:31:44,950 --> 02:31:42,560 rabbit hole that i would love to dive 4019 02:31:47,190 --> 02:31:44,960 down but um i don't think we hope we 4020 02:31:48,630 --> 02:31:47,200 haven't signed the time for right now 4021 02:31:50,630 --> 02:31:48,640 right 4022 02:31:52,870 --> 02:31:50,640 and you could join alice as she's uh 4023 02:31:55,190 --> 02:31:52,880 chasing after that white rabbit i know 4024 02:31:58,150 --> 02:31:55,200 of a smell i know of a smell that 4025 02:31:59,590 --> 02:31:58,160 attracts uh bigfoot and it's supported 4026 02:32:01,990 --> 02:31:59,600 in the literature 4027 02:32:03,270 --> 02:32:02,000 and that's the smell of of humans having 4028 02:32:06,230 --> 02:32:03,280 sex 4029 02:32:10,070 --> 02:32:06,240 is an attractive to bigfoot uh we have a 4030 02:32:13,349 --> 02:32:10,080 number of uh cases uh including the 4031 02:32:15,750 --> 02:32:13,359 dupont monster case from illinois 4032 02:32:17,910 --> 02:32:15,760 where teens 4033 02:32:19,110 --> 02:32:17,920 making out and having sex in in parked 4034 02:32:20,469 --> 02:32:19,120 cars in a 4035 02:32:22,309 --> 02:32:20,479 particular 4036 02:32:24,950 --> 02:32:22,319 number of lovers lanes 4037 02:32:27,830 --> 02:32:24,960 would attract evidently uh the attention 4038 02:32:29,990 --> 02:32:27,840 to bigfoot uh we had cases up here in 4039 02:32:31,590 --> 02:32:30,000 the white mountains of arizona five in a 4040 02:32:34,309 --> 02:32:31,600 row actually where 4041 02:32:36,070 --> 02:32:34,319 uh couples engaging in sex uh found 4042 02:32:38,309 --> 02:32:36,080 themselves 4043 02:32:39,590 --> 02:32:38,319 you know looking at peeping tom uh 4044 02:32:42,070 --> 02:32:39,600 through uh 4045 02:32:45,429 --> 02:32:42,080 the open window so that may be one 4046 02:32:46,389 --> 02:32:45,439 example um another example 4047 02:32:49,349 --> 02:32:46,399 well 4048 02:32:50,150 --> 02:32:49,359 maybe i shouldn't go there but um 4049 02:32:52,630 --> 02:32:50,160 that 4050 02:32:55,349 --> 02:32:52,640 could be one possible thing so the the 4051 02:32:58,550 --> 02:32:55,359 the scent given off by humans uh engaged 4052 02:32:59,990 --> 02:32:58,560 in sex whatever the pheromones and and 4053 02:33:02,630 --> 02:33:00,000 other uh 4054 02:33:04,950 --> 02:33:02,640 complex uh 4055 02:33:08,790 --> 02:33:04,960 smells given off in that particular uh 4056 02:33:11,670 --> 02:33:08,800 act does have some 4057 02:33:13,270 --> 02:33:11,680 possible correlation in the literature 4058 02:33:14,710 --> 02:33:13,280 no that that's a great point i've heard 4059 02:33:16,230 --> 02:33:14,720 that as well too 4060 02:33:18,309 --> 02:33:16,240 this sort of 4061 02:33:19,830 --> 02:33:18,319 pervy bigfoot aspect 4062 02:33:21,510 --> 02:33:19,840 because the nature of this particular 4063 02:33:22,469 --> 02:33:21,520 research project i didn't really delve 4064 02:33:25,110 --> 02:33:22,479 into 4065 02:33:26,710 --> 02:33:25,120 it's sort of like the inverse of 4066 02:33:28,309 --> 02:33:26,720 a trojan feast like a lot of people 4067 02:33:29,990 --> 02:33:28,319 looked at that book and said oh so does 4068 02:33:31,270 --> 02:33:30,000 it mean that aliens eat strawberry ice 4069 02:33:32,630 --> 02:33:31,280 cream no that's not 4070 02:33:34,870 --> 02:33:32,640 that's the other side of the of 4071 02:33:36,469 --> 02:33:34,880 transmission right so i didn't really 4072 02:33:38,550 --> 02:33:36,479 delve into that too much at this point 4073 02:33:40,070 --> 02:33:38,560 but um but yeah i've heard similar 4074 02:33:43,429 --> 02:33:40,080 stories um 4075 02:33:45,349 --> 02:33:43,439 at great length you know and about uh 4076 02:33:46,870 --> 02:33:45,359 people in lovers lanes people 4077 02:33:49,190 --> 02:33:46,880 you know having 4078 02:33:50,550 --> 02:33:49,200 a sexual interactions during a flap in a 4079 02:33:52,790 --> 02:33:50,560 particular area 4080 02:33:54,230 --> 02:33:52,800 seeing seeing bigfoot but to me to me 4081 02:33:56,790 --> 02:33:54,240 that sort of 4082 02:33:59,190 --> 02:33:56,800 interfaces with a larger reproductive 4083 02:34:01,830 --> 02:33:59,200 question you know like the whole uh 4084 02:34:03,670 --> 02:34:01,840 fairies have very substitute changelings 4085 02:34:05,910 --> 02:34:03,680 and uh aliens are interested in 4086 02:34:08,309 --> 02:34:05,920 hybridization and sasquatch is just a 4087 02:34:09,990 --> 02:34:08,319 pervy peeping tom as you well 4088 02:34:11,670 --> 02:34:10,000 so um 4089 02:34:13,190 --> 02:34:11,680 i think that's sort of 4090 02:34:15,510 --> 02:34:13,200 for me i think it's more tied into that 4091 02:34:17,990 --> 02:34:15,520 than actually the whole scent thing but 4092 02:34:20,230 --> 02:34:18,000 that there's a that there's definitely a 4093 02:34:21,750 --> 02:34:20,240 a road to go down with that in terms of 4094 02:34:24,710 --> 02:34:21,760 you know the scent of 4095 02:34:27,190 --> 02:34:24,720 that act uh perhaps being encouraging 4096 02:34:30,070 --> 02:34:27,200 for bigfoot to investigate 4097 02:34:32,150 --> 02:34:30,080 i've also heard menstrual blood as well 4098 02:34:34,389 --> 02:34:32,160 i think that's less we're going to find 4099 02:34:35,750 --> 02:34:34,399 less examples of that but but but there 4100 02:34:38,230 --> 02:34:35,760 have been some people up i believe there 4101 02:34:40,150 --> 02:34:38,240 was a group of all female big bigfoot 4102 02:34:42,150 --> 02:34:40,160 researchers who um i believe it was an 4103 02:34:43,670 --> 02:34:42,160 all big all female group of bigfoot 4104 02:34:44,469 --> 02:34:43,680 researchers that captured the skookum 4105 02:34:47,110 --> 02:34:44,479 cast 4106 02:34:48,950 --> 02:34:47,120 i might be misspeaking on that but um 4107 02:34:50,070 --> 02:34:48,960 as i as i recall that sounds a bit 4108 02:34:51,830 --> 02:34:50,080 familiar 4109 02:34:53,750 --> 02:34:51,840 yeah i totally forgot that detail but 4110 02:34:54,870 --> 02:34:53,760 well that would be uh that would be 4111 02:34:56,469 --> 02:34:54,880 interesting 4112 02:34:58,710 --> 02:34:56,479 i think that i think i think that might 4113 02:35:00,790 --> 02:34:58,720 be the case i'm not sure um but i have 4114 02:35:02,550 --> 02:35:00,800 heard of like a group of female bigfoot 4115 02:35:04,950 --> 02:35:02,560 researchers getting together to do the 4116 02:35:07,910 --> 02:35:04,960 bigfoot thing in the hopes that their 4117 02:35:10,309 --> 02:35:07,920 you know feminine scent might attract 4118 02:35:14,389 --> 02:35:10,319 um might attract bigfoot that's the 4119 02:35:18,950 --> 02:35:17,110 their feminine scent yeah yeah 4120 02:35:21,429 --> 02:35:18,960 you know i've always wondered why dr 4121 02:35:24,230 --> 02:35:21,439 scholes hasn't done an ad campaign 4122 02:35:25,030 --> 02:35:24,240 featuring a hot and sweaty bigfoot uh 4123 02:35:28,309 --> 02:35:25,040 and 4124 02:35:30,309 --> 02:35:28,319 some sort of uh annie uh odor sort of 4125 02:35:33,030 --> 02:35:30,319 shoe insert yeah they could just borrow 4126 02:35:36,790 --> 02:35:33,040 the jack links beef jerky costume right 4127 02:35:39,590 --> 02:35:37,830 oh boy 4128 02:35:41,510 --> 02:35:39,600 that was downwind to denmark that one 4129 02:35:44,070 --> 02:35:41,520 that was a little fishy now we're not 4130 02:35:47,190 --> 02:35:44,080 going to stop the puns here we have time 4131 02:35:48,870 --> 02:35:47,200 about a minute or a minute and a half so 4132 02:35:50,710 --> 02:35:48,880 joshua where you take your research from 4133 02:35:53,590 --> 02:35:50,720 here is there a third book 4134 02:35:55,110 --> 02:35:53,600 on this or do you go somewhere else 4135 02:35:57,110 --> 02:35:55,120 well that's the big question like i'm 4136 02:35:59,590 --> 02:35:57,120 fascinated in this idea of like 4137 02:36:00,630 --> 02:35:59,600 the the senses in how they interface 4138 02:36:03,270 --> 02:36:00,640 with uh 4139 02:36:06,389 --> 02:36:03,280 with anomalous encounters but um 4140 02:36:09,429 --> 02:36:06,399 i'm a bit hesitant to you know do like a 4141 02:36:11,349 --> 02:36:09,439 a sound book or you know a touch book 4142 02:36:15,830 --> 02:36:11,359 because nobody wants to read a trojan 4143 02:36:20,870 --> 02:36:19,030 oh a trojan touch oh this is getting 4144 02:36:25,190 --> 02:36:20,880 fascinating 4145 02:36:28,469 --> 02:36:25,200 don't stop pt oh that oh that feels good 4146 02:36:31,190 --> 02:36:28,479 but uh but um i i don't want to be 4147 02:36:33,910 --> 02:36:31,200 pigeonholed in this certain like sensory 4148 02:36:35,910 --> 02:36:33,920 uh aspect so i don't know i'm kicking 4149 02:36:38,150 --> 02:36:35,920 around a couple different ideas um again 4150 02:36:40,790 --> 02:36:38,160 that kelly hopping hopkinsville goblins 4151 02:36:43,270 --> 02:36:40,800 idea is just is sticking my crawl uh 4152 02:36:45,510 --> 02:36:43,280 real hard that is a good that that's a 4153 02:36:47,750 --> 02:36:45,520 real good idea and i think we're i think 4154 02:36:49,670 --> 02:36:47,760 we're reaching the the endpoint of like 4155 02:36:51,110 --> 02:36:49,680 i think the last witness is 4156 02:36:54,070 --> 02:36:51,120 getting out there so that would be a 4157 02:36:55,670 --> 02:36:54,080 good point to you know engage um but i'm 4158 02:36:57,030 --> 02:36:55,680 thinking of a couple ideas right now i'm 4159 02:36:58,870 --> 02:36:57,040 just trying to focus on letting people 4160 02:37:00,710 --> 02:36:58,880 know about this book because this is a 4161 02:37:01,670 --> 02:37:00,720 lot harder than last one i can guarantee 4162 02:37:03,349 --> 02:37:01,680 you that 4163 02:37:05,510 --> 02:37:03,359 yeah so that's that's sort of where i'm 4164 02:37:06,790 --> 02:37:05,520 where i'm going from here it passes the 4165 02:37:08,950 --> 02:37:06,800 smell test 4166 02:37:10,469 --> 02:37:08,960 and he had a fumigators home after 4167 02:37:11,830 --> 02:37:10,479 writing this book and that's not even 4168 02:37:14,070 --> 02:37:11,840 true 4169 02:37:15,510 --> 02:37:14,080 i don't think so joshua can you tell our 4170 02:37:16,550 --> 02:37:15,520 listeners where we can find more of your 4171 02:37:19,349 --> 02:37:16,560 stuff 4172 02:37:21,309 --> 02:37:19,359 absolutely i maintain an ill 4173 02:37:23,510 --> 02:37:21,319 supported blog at 4174 02:37:26,070 --> 02:37:23,520 joshuacutchin.com um 4175 02:37:28,309 --> 02:37:26,080 i get i probably post a blog post once a 4176 02:37:30,469 --> 02:37:28,319 month on there um but the best place to 4177 02:37:32,710 --> 02:37:30,479 hear my ideas and thoughts is at the 4178 02:37:34,630 --> 02:37:32,720 podcast where did the road go at where 4179 02:37:36,630 --> 02:37:34,640 did the road go.com 4180 02:37:37,830 --> 02:37:36,640 me and myself sarai ascath red pill 4181 02:37:40,630 --> 02:37:37,840 junkie and michael hughes are the 4182 02:37:42,630 --> 02:37:40,640 current roundtable contingent and 4183 02:37:45,190 --> 02:37:42,640 you'll find me there on a weekly to 4184 02:37:46,870 --> 02:37:45,200 bi-weekly basis you can find us on 4185 02:37:48,950 --> 02:37:46,880 twitter look for the powercast the 4186 02:37:51,910 --> 02:37:48,960 powercast is on twitter 4187 02:37:53,510 --> 02:37:51,920 a pair of powercast fan clubs 4188 02:37:57,110 --> 02:37:53,520 exists 4189 02:37:59,190 --> 02:37:57,120 on facebook no senses involved 4190 02:38:01,830 --> 02:37:59,200 but does make a lot of sense 4191 02:38:03,990 --> 02:38:01,840 but not financially we've got a special 4192 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02:38:40,389 --> 02:38:37,120 cheap 4209 02:38:42,710 --> 02:38:40,399 this has been a fun show no more 4210 02:38:44,710 --> 02:38:42,720 smelly puns 4211 02:38:46,389 --> 02:38:44,720 joshua cutchen thanks for joining us on 4212 02:38:48,550 --> 02:38:46,399 the power cast 4213 02:39:04,469 --> 02:38:48,560 my pleasure i'd rather be a smart feller 4214 02:39:10,230 --> 02:39:07,349 the paracast featuring jean steinberg 4215 02:39:13,190 --> 02:39:10,240 and christopher o'brien is a copyrighted 4216 02:39:14,950 --> 02:39:13,200 presentation of making the impossible 4217 02:39:19,110 --> 02:39:14,960 incorporated